{
  "id": 498665,
  "title": "Confusing Target?",
  "url": "/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/498665",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-04-29T06:50:05.825893400Z",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 5,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>In definitions file there is score_940, which cannot be found in any file. Submission file shows Target, which also is not seen anywhere else. So, using test data-set we need to compute ROC_AUC. Then why is this a problem in machine learning?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2782152",
      "postDate": "04/29/2024 06:50:05",
      "content": "<p>In definitions file there is score_940, which cannot be found in any file. Submission file shows Target, which also is not seen anywhere else. So, using test data-set we need to compute ROC_AUC. Then why is this a problem in machine learning?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In definitions file there is score_940, which cannot be found in any file. Submission file shows Target, which also is not seen anywhere else. So, using test data-set we need to compute ROC_AUC. Then why is this a problem in machine learning?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2782464",
      "postDate": "04/29/2024 10:12:37",
      "content": "<p>I am surprised some people do not like the question. Possibly they have participated in the first part of home credit problem and know what is to be done. Please be kind enough and explain a beginner what is this game about. Your efforts will be highly appreciated. Thanks,</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am surprised some people do not like the question. Possibly they have participated in the first part of home credit problem and know what is to be done. Please be kind enough and explain a beginner what is this game about. Your efforts will be highly appreciated. Thanks,",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2783050",
      "postDate": "04/29/2024 14:53:30",
      "content": "<p>It seems like not all features in the definition file are present in the train/test files. For the <em>target</em>, you are supposed to predict for it, rather than something that's given. <em>target</em> is a probability by the competition's guideline: </p>\n<pre><code>Submission File\nFor  case_id   test , you must predict  probability   target score. \n</code></pre>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It seems like not all features in the definition file are present in the train/test files. For the *target*, you are supposed to predict for it, rather than something that's given. *target* is a probability by the competition's guideline: \n\n```\nSubmission File\nFor each case_id in the test set, you must predict a probability for the target score. \n```",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2784026",
      "postDate": "04/30/2024 04:31:50",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for your kind reply.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for your kind reply.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2796648",
      "postDate": "05/06/2024 10:58:14",
      "content": "<p>Ya why was the column score_940 missed in the data?, this could be a reliable feature for predicting the target.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Ya why was the column score_940 missed in the data?, this could be a reliable feature for predicting the target.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2799228",
      "postDate": "05/07/2024 16:37:43",
      "content": "<p>Definition file is to get buiness knowledge to us , Target column is probability that case id has done in the previous loans given by bank we will predict future case id's will be credit defaulters to not by target for each test data.. read overview again to understand better the problem!!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Definition file is to get buiness knowledge to us , Target column is probability that case id has done in the previous loans given by bank we will predict future case id's will be credit defaulters to not by target for each test data.. read overview again to understand better the problem!!",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2782464,
      "author_name": "robby75",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/29/2024 10:12:37",
      "content": "<p>I am surprised some people do not like the question. Possibly they have participated in the first part of home credit problem and know what is to be done. Please be kind enough and explain a beginner what is this game about. Your efforts will be highly appreciated. Thanks,</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2783050,
      "author_name": "faithk7u",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/29/2024 14:53:30",
      "content": "<p>It seems like not all features in the definition file are present in the train/test files. For the <em>target</em>, you are supposed to predict for it, rather than something that's given. <em>target</em> is a probability by the competition's guideline: </p>\n<pre><code>Submission File\nFor  case_id   test , you must predict  probability   target score. \n</code></pre>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2784026,
          "author_name": "robby75",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/30/2024 04:31:50",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for your kind reply.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2796648,
      "author_name": "arjuna111",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/06/2024 10:58:14",
      "content": "<p>Ya why was the column score_940 missed in the data?, this could be a reliable feature for predicting the target.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2799228,
      "author_name": "kunduruanil",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/07/2024 16:37:43",
      "content": "<p>Definition file is to get buiness knowledge to us , Target column is probability that case id has done in the previous loans given by bank we will predict future case id's will be credit defaulters to not by target for each test data.. read overview again to understand better the problem!!</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "2782152": "In definitions file there is score_940, which cannot be found in any file. Submission file shows Target, which also is not seen anywhere else. So, using test data-set we need to compute ROC_AUC. Then why is this a problem in machine learning?",
    "2782464": "I am surprised some people do not like the question. Possibly they have participated in the first part of home credit problem and know what is to be done. Please be kind enough and explain a beginner what is this game about. Your efforts will be highly appreciated. Thanks,",
    "2783050": "It seems like not all features in the definition file are present in the train/test files. For the *target*, you are supposed to predict for it, rather than something that's given. *target* is a probability by the competition's guideline: \n\n```\nSubmission File\nFor each case_id in the test set, you must predict a probability for the target score. \n```",
    "2784026": "Thanks for your kind reply.",
    "2796648": "Ya why was the column score_940 missed in the data?, this could be a reliable feature for predicting the target.",
    "2799228": "Definition file is to get buiness knowledge to us , Target column is probability that case id has done in the previous loans given by bank we will predict future case id's will be credit defaulters to not by target for each test data.. read overview again to understand better the problem!!"
  },
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}