{
  "id": 491295,
  "title": "👀 What is constructive discussion? ⬇️",
  "url": "/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/491295",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-04-05T10:46:15.243520Z",
  "votes": 5,
  "comment_count": 2,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I don't participate in this competition, I just watch the discussions and gather information, but I feel like <strong><em>\"downvotes\"</em></strong> stand out among the competitions I've experienced.</p>\n<p>Responses to the discussion are as follows.</p>\n<ol>\n<li>Just look (quickly or slowly)</li>\n<li>Upvote or downvote</li>\n<li>Comment</li>\n<li>React</li>\n</ol>\n<p>I think the downvote function in Kaggle discussions has only disadvantages. This is because you can tell who made an upvote, but you don't know who made a downvote, so there's no room for debate.</p>\n<p>In my opinion, <strong>if you can downvote in seconds, take a few minutes to think and counter</strong>.</p>\n<p>Thank you for reading to the end. I look forward to your comments.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2736692",
      "postDate": "04/05/2024 10:46:15",
      "content": "<p>I don't participate in this competition, I just watch the discussions and gather information, but I feel like <strong><em>\"downvotes\"</em></strong> stand out among the competitions I've experienced.</p>\n<p>Responses to the discussion are as follows.</p>\n<ol>\n<li>Just look (quickly or slowly)</li>\n<li>Upvote or downvote</li>\n<li>Comment</li>\n<li>React</li>\n</ol>\n<p>I think the downvote function in Kaggle discussions has only disadvantages. This is because you can tell who made an upvote, but you don't know who made a downvote, so there's no room for debate.</p>\n<p>In my opinion, <strong>if you can downvote in seconds, take a few minutes to think and counter</strong>.</p>\n<p>Thank you for reading to the end. I look forward to your comments.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I don't participate in this competition, I just watch the discussions and gather information, but I feel like ***\"downvotes\"*** stand out among the competitions I've experienced.\n\nResponses to the discussion are as follows.\n\n1. Just look (quickly or slowly)\n2. Upvote or downvote\n3. Comment\n4. React\n\nI think the downvote function in Kaggle discussions has only disadvantages. This is because you can tell who made an upvote, but you don't know who made a downvote, so there's no room for debate.\n\nIn my opinion, **if you can downvote in seconds, take a few minutes to think and counter**.\n\nThank you for reading to the end. I look forward to your comments.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2736701",
      "postDate": "04/05/2024 10:49:44",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mitsuyasuhoshino\" target=\"_blank\">@mitsuyasuhoshino</a> this is actually a very good point. Why do we need downvotes when we have reactions? Perhaps a frowning face reaction may be considered as a substitute for downvote.</p>\n<p>I usually never downvote anyone's post. One logs into Kaggle and spends time here against one's leisure activity. This is enough for me to leave out posts that I don't agree with/ support opinions I can agree. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "mitsuyasuhoshino this is actually a very good point. Why do we need downvotes when we have reactions? Perhaps a frowning face reaction may be considered as a substitute for downvote.\n\nI usually never downvote anyone's post. One logs into Kaggle and spends time here against one's leisure activity. This is enough for me to leave out posts that I don't agree with/ support opinions I can agree.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2739386",
      "postDate": "04/07/2024 02:54:44",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ravi20076\" target=\"_blank\">@ravi20076</a> Thank you for always commenting!<br>\nFor the following reasons, I will consider requesting improvement from Kaggle (I think it makes sense just to check the intent of Kaggle).</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Contrary to \"be patient\" in the discussion section (it is too easy a way to express personal opinions)</li>\n<li>Due to confidentiality, individuals who comment can be attacked (I have seen people downvote every time they comment)</li>\n<li>Obstructs discussion itself (negative impact on community or competition activation)</li>\n</ul>",
      "rawMarkdown": "ravi20076 Thank you for always commenting!\nFor the following reasons, I will consider requesting improvement from Kaggle (I think it makes sense just to check the intent of Kaggle).\n\n- Contrary to \"be patient\" in the discussion section (it is too easy a way to express personal opinions)\n- Due to confidentiality, individuals who comment can be attacked (I have seen people downvote every time they comment)\n- Obstructs discussion itself (negative impact on community or competition activation)",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2736701,
      "author_name": "ravi20076",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/05/2024 10:49:44",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mitsuyasuhoshino\" target=\"_blank\">@mitsuyasuhoshino</a> this is actually a very good point. Why do we need downvotes when we have reactions? Perhaps a frowning face reaction may be considered as a substitute for downvote.</p>\n<p>I usually never downvote anyone's post. One logs into Kaggle and spends time here against one's leisure activity. This is enough for me to leave out posts that I don't agree with/ support opinions I can agree. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2739386,
          "author_name": "mitsuyasuhoshino",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/07/2024 02:54:44",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ravi20076\" target=\"_blank\">@ravi20076</a> Thank you for always commenting!<br>\nFor the following reasons, I will consider requesting improvement from Kaggle (I think it makes sense just to check the intent of Kaggle).</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Contrary to \"be patient\" in the discussion section (it is too easy a way to express personal opinions)</li>\n<li>Due to confidentiality, individuals who comment can be attacked (I have seen people downvote every time they comment)</li>\n<li>Obstructs discussion itself (negative impact on community or competition activation)</li>\n</ul>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
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    "2736692": "I don't participate in this competition, I just watch the discussions and gather information, but I feel like ***\"downvotes\"*** stand out among the competitions I've experienced.\n\nResponses to the discussion are as follows.\n\n1. Just look (quickly or slowly)\n2. Upvote or downvote\n3. Comment\n4. React\n\nI think the downvote function in Kaggle discussions has only disadvantages. This is because you can tell who made an upvote, but you don't know who made a downvote, so there's no room for debate.\n\nIn my opinion, **if you can downvote in seconds, take a few minutes to think and counter**.\n\nThank you for reading to the end. I look forward to your comments.",
    "2736701": "mitsuyasuhoshino this is actually a very good point. Why do we need downvotes when we have reactions? Perhaps a frowning face reaction may be considered as a substitute for downvote.\n\nI usually never downvote anyone's post. One logs into Kaggle and spends time here against one's leisure activity. This is enough for me to leave out posts that I don't agree with/ support opinions I can agree.",
    "2739386": "ravi20076 Thank you for always commenting!\nFor the following reasons, I will consider requesting improvement from Kaggle (I think it makes sense just to check the intent of Kaggle).\n\n- Contrary to \"be patient\" in the discussion section (it is too easy a way to express personal opinions)\n- Due to confidentiality, individuals who comment can be attacked (I have seen people downvote every time they comment)\n- Obstructs discussion itself (negative impact on community or competition activation)"
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