{
  "id": 478162,
  "title": "Best single model",
  "url": "/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/478162",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-02-19T11:55:57.061411500Z",
  "votes": 3,
  "comment_count": 5,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>As I've discussed <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/477228\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>, the metric focused on stability promotes ensembling of many diverse models.</p>\n<p>In this topic, I wanted to ask about the best <em>single</em> model.</p>\n<p>Mine is LGBM, AUC cv 0.855, LB 0.591 (after metric hacking).  </p>",
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    {
      "id": "2658775",
      "postDate": "02/19/2024 11:55:57",
      "content": "<p>As I've discussed <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/477228\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>, the metric focused on stability promotes ensembling of many diverse models.</p>\n<p>In this topic, I wanted to ask about the best <em>single</em> model.</p>\n<p>Mine is LGBM, AUC cv 0.855, LB 0.591 (after metric hacking).  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "As I've discussed [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/477228), the metric focused on stability promotes ensembling of many diverse models.\n\nIn this topic, I wanted to ask about the best *single* model.\n\nMine is LGBM, AUC cv 0.855, LB 0.591 (after metric hacking).",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2658821",
      "postDate": "02/19/2024 12:32:36",
      "content": "<p>Mine is a NN with AUC cv of 0.822 and LB 0.576 (also with metric hacking)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Mine is a NN with AUC cv of 0.822 and LB 0.576 (also with metric hacking)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2659541",
      "postDate": "02/20/2024 00:21:47",
      "content": "<p>May I ask which CV has the best performance in this competition?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "May I ask which CV has the best performance in this competition?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2659673",
      "postDate": "02/20/2024 04:42:01",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/narsil\" target=\"_blank\">@narsil</a> from my initial baseline approaches, I concur that the public leaderboard is very unstable and is highly sensitive to the weights used across the models in the blend. This is likely to lead to a big churn at the end. What do you have to say in this regard? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "narsil from my initial baseline approaches, I concur that the public leaderboard is very unstable and is highly sensitive to the weights used across the models in the blend. This is likely to lead to a big churn at the end. What do you have to say in this regard?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2659777",
      "postDate": "02/20/2024 06:04:11",
      "content": "<p>I will go with recommendation from #1 place, which is to just use weeks since 60 <code>WEEKNUM</code> for validation</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I will go with recommendation from #1 place, which is to just use weeks since 60 `WEEKNUM` for validation",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2659781",
      "postDate": "02/20/2024 06:06:17",
      "content": "<p>If you mean big shakeup - difficult to say because we have 2 opposing forces at play here:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>public vs private split is a mystery -&gt; increasing the magnitude of potential shakeup</li>\n<li>competition promotes stability - blending of many models -&gt; decreasing the magnitude of shakeup</li>\n</ul>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If you mean big shakeup - difficult to say because we have 2 opposing forces at play here:\n- public vs private split is a mystery -> increasing the magnitude of potential shakeup\n- competition promotes stability - blending of many models -> decreasing the magnitude of shakeup",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2658821,
      "author_name": "ralfffhs",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/19/2024 12:32:36",
      "content": "<p>Mine is a NN with AUC cv of 0.822 and LB 0.576 (also with metric hacking)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2659541,
      "author_name": "yunsuxiaozi",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/20/2024 00:21:47",
      "content": "<p>May I ask which CV has the best performance in this competition?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2659777,
          "author_name": "narsil",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "02/20/2024 06:04:11",
          "content": "<p>I will go with recommendation from #1 place, which is to just use weeks since 60 <code>WEEKNUM</code> for validation</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
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      "id": 2659673,
      "author_name": "ravi20076",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/20/2024 04:42:01",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/narsil\" target=\"_blank\">@narsil</a> from my initial baseline approaches, I concur that the public leaderboard is very unstable and is highly sensitive to the weights used across the models in the blend. This is likely to lead to a big churn at the end. What do you have to say in this regard? </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2659781,
          "author_name": "narsil",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "02/20/2024 06:06:17",
          "content": "<p>If you mean big shakeup - difficult to say because we have 2 opposing forces at play here:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>public vs private split is a mystery -&gt; increasing the magnitude of potential shakeup</li>\n<li>competition promotes stability - blending of many models -&gt; decreasing the magnitude of shakeup</li>\n</ul>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
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    "2658775": "As I've discussed [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/477228), the metric focused on stability promotes ensembling of many diverse models.\n\nIn this topic, I wanted to ask about the best *single* model.\n\nMine is LGBM, AUC cv 0.855, LB 0.591 (after metric hacking).",
    "2658821": "Mine is a NN with AUC cv of 0.822 and LB 0.576 (also with metric hacking)",
    "2659541": "May I ask which CV has the best performance in this competition?",
    "2659673": "narsil from my initial baseline approaches, I concur that the public leaderboard is very unstable and is highly sensitive to the weights used across the models in the blend. This is likely to lead to a big churn at the end. What do you have to say in this regard?",
    "2659777": "I will go with recommendation from #1 place, which is to just use weeks since 60 `WEEKNUM` for validation",
    "2659781": "If you mean big shakeup - difficult to say because we have 2 opposing forces at play here:\n- public vs private split is a mystery -> increasing the magnitude of potential shakeup\n- competition promotes stability - blending of many models -> decreasing the magnitude of shakeup"
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