{
  "id": 491904,
  "title": "Submission Timing",
  "url": "/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/491904",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-04-07T19:26:46.741541700Z",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 9,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>If my submission to LB takes 4 hours to complete, does this mean it took 4 hours to finish running on the full dataset (public and private LB data) or does kaggle only run my notebook against public LB examples before the end date?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2740443",
      "postDate": "04/07/2024 19:26:46",
      "content": "<p>If my submission to LB takes 4 hours to complete, does this mean it took 4 hours to finish running on the full dataset (public and private LB data) or does kaggle only run my notebook against public LB examples before the end date?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If my submission to LB takes 4 hours to complete, does this mean it took 4 hours to finish running on the full dataset (public and private LB data) or does kaggle only run my notebook against public LB examples before the end date?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2740649",
      "postDate": "04/07/2024 21:34:51",
      "content": "<p>Submission runs on <strong>both</strong> public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days <code>Queue Time &gt; 0</code> and we only need to worry that <code>Public Test Time + Private Test Time &lt; 9 hours</code>.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Submission runs on **both** public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days `Queue Time > 0` and we only need to worry that `Public Test Time + Private Test Time < 9 hours`.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2740926",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 02:43:59",
      "content": "<p>Got it, thanks Chris!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Got it, thanks Chris!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2741060",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 05:41:32",
      "content": "<p>Sorry to bother you, but does this mean that our final score on the private dataset immediately becomes available after the competition ends?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Sorry to bother you, but does this mean that our final score on the private dataset immediately becomes available after the competition ends?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2741062",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 05:44:15",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/phoenix1203\" target=\"_blank\">@phoenix1203</a> Yes. When the competition ends, we immediately see our private LB score and private Lb rank.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "phoenix1203 Yes. When the competition ends, we immediately see our private LB score and private Lb rank.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2741696",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 14:52:59",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Submission runs on <strong>both</strong> public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days <code>Queue Time &gt; 0</code> and we only need to worry that <code>Public Test Time + Private Test Time &lt; 9 hours</code>.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>So can I submit it at the last second? Does this mean that even though the competition is over, there will still be ranking changes in the next 9 hours <strong>after the competition ends</strong>?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "> Submission runs on **both** public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days `Queue Time > 0` and we only need to worry that `Public Test Time + Private Test Time < 9 hours`.\n\nSo can I submit it at the last second? Does this mean that even though the competition is over, there will still be ranking changes in the next 9 hours **after the competition ends**?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2741704",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 15:01:43",
      "content": "<p>No, as far as I know under normal circumstances, the notebook must be completely completed before the deadline to be counted. I currently have two notebooks that won't start, both of which could improve my output. But now the problem is with kaggle, so I don't know what the organizers will decide, or consider additional notebooks, or give another day, maybe something else, or maybe they will decide not to change anything (Usually the kaggle team advocates maximum fairness, we'll see).</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "No, as far as I know under normal circumstances, the notebook must be completely completed before the deadline to be counted. I currently have two notebooks that won't start, both of which could improve my output. But now the problem is with kaggle, so I don't know what the organizers will decide, or consider additional notebooks, or give another day, maybe something else, or maybe they will decide not to change anything (Usually the kaggle team advocates maximum fairness, we'll see).",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2741818",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 15:53:46",
      "content": "<p>I think what you said makes sense. In order to avoid everyone submitting notebooks at the last second (super big DDOS), Kaggle may not encourage this.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think what you said makes sense. In order to avoid everyone submitting notebooks at the last second (super big DDOS), Kaggle may not encourage this.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2741828",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 15:57:57",
      "content": "<p>Is it possible if I  submit before deadline and it could finish intime  but due to traffic issue it could not finish before deadline?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Is it possible if I  submit before deadline and it could finish intime  but due to traffic issue it could not finish before deadline?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2741873",
      "postDate": "04/08/2024 16:22:43",
      "content": "<p>I just started the notebook, everything worked without a queue</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I just started the notebook, everything worked without a queue",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2740649,
      "author_name": "cdeotte",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/07/2024 21:34:51",
      "content": "<p>Submission runs on <strong>both</strong> public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days <code>Queue Time &gt; 0</code> and we only need to worry that <code>Public Test Time + Private Test Time &lt; 9 hours</code>.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2740926,
          "author_name": "snehalverma10",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/08/2024 02:43:59",
          "content": "<p>Got it, thanks Chris!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 2741060,
          "author_name": "phoenix1203",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/08/2024 05:41:32",
          "content": "<p>Sorry to bother you, but does this mean that our final score on the private dataset immediately becomes available after the competition ends?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2741062,
              "author_name": "cdeotte",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "04/08/2024 05:44:15",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/phoenix1203\" target=\"_blank\">@phoenix1203</a> Yes. When the competition ends, we immediately see our private LB score and private Lb rank.</p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2741696,
          "author_name": "jimmyisme1",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/08/2024 14:52:59",
          "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Submission runs on <strong>both</strong> public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days <code>Queue Time &gt; 0</code> and we only need to worry that <code>Public Test Time + Private Test Time &lt; 9 hours</code>.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>So can I submit it at the last second? Does this mean that even though the competition is over, there will still be ranking changes in the next 9 hours <strong>after the competition ends</strong>?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2741704,
              "author_name": "aikhmelnytskyy",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "04/08/2024 15:01:43",
              "content": "<p>No, as far as I know under normal circumstances, the notebook must be completely completed before the deadline to be counted. I currently have two notebooks that won't start, both of which could improve my output. But now the problem is with kaggle, so I don't know what the organizers will decide, or consider additional notebooks, or give another day, maybe something else, or maybe they will decide not to change anything (Usually the kaggle team advocates maximum fairness, we'll see).</p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": [
                {
                  "id": 2741818,
                  "author_name": "jimmyisme1",
                  "author_url": "",
                  "post_date": "04/08/2024 15:53:46",
                  "content": "<p>I think what you said makes sense. In order to avoid everyone submitting notebooks at the last second (super big DDOS), Kaggle may not encourage this.</p>",
                  "votes": null,
                  "replies": []
                }
              ]
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2741828,
          "author_name": "goldenlock",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/08/2024 15:57:57",
          "content": "<p>Is it possible if I  submit before deadline and it could finish intime  but due to traffic issue it could not finish before deadline?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2741873,
              "author_name": "aikhmelnytskyy",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "04/08/2024 16:22:43",
              "content": "<p>I just started the notebook, everything worked without a queue</p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
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    "2740443": "If my submission to LB takes 4 hours to complete, does this mean it took 4 hours to finish running on the full dataset (public and private LB data) or does kaggle only run my notebook against public LB examples before the end date?",
    "2740649": "Submission runs on **both** public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days `Queue Time > 0` and we only need to worry that `Public Test Time + Private Test Time < 9 hours`.",
    "2740926": "Got it, thanks Chris!",
    "2741060": "Sorry to bother you, but does this mean that our final score on the private dataset immediately becomes available after the competition ends?",
    "2741062": "phoenix1203 Yes. When the competition ends, we immediately see our private LB score and private Lb rank.",
    "2741696": "> Submission runs on **both** public and private. The total time = Queue Time + Public Test Time + Private Test Time. Note that when Kaggle is busy in the last days `Queue Time > 0` and we only need to worry that `Public Test Time + Private Test Time < 9 hours`.\n\nSo can I submit it at the last second? Does this mean that even though the competition is over, there will still be ranking changes in the next 9 hours **after the competition ends**?",
    "2741704": "No, as far as I know under normal circumstances, the notebook must be completely completed before the deadline to be counted. I currently have two notebooks that won't start, both of which could improve my output. But now the problem is with kaggle, so I don't know what the organizers will decide, or consider additional notebooks, or give another day, maybe something else, or maybe they will decide not to change anything (Usually the kaggle team advocates maximum fairness, we'll see).",
    "2741818": "I think what you said makes sense. In order to avoid everyone submitting notebooks at the last second (super big DDOS), Kaggle may not encourage this.",
    "2741828": "Is it possible if I  submit before deadline and it could finish intime  but due to traffic issue it could not finish before deadline?",
    "2741873": "I just started the notebook, everything worked without a queue"
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