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  "id": 467783,
  "title": "EEG basics - everything you need to know about the basics of EEG and spectrograms to start working on this competition",
  "url": "/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/467783",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-01-14T01:28:33.817110500Z",
  "votes": 8,
  "comment_count": 6,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Start with watching this video:<br>\n<br>\ncontains basic introduction to EEG</p>\n<ul>\n<li>definitions</li>\n<li>descriptive parameters</li>\n<li>topography (10-20)</li>\n<li>montages</li>\n</ul>\n<p>and per <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/SeshuRajuP\" target=\"_blank\">@SeshuRajuP</a> suggestion video with more theory on EEG monitoring<br>\n</p>",
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      "id": "2600884",
      "postDate": "01/14/2024 01:28:33",
      "content": "<p>Start with watching this video:<br>\n<br>\ncontains basic introduction to EEG</p>\n<ul>\n<li>definitions</li>\n<li>descriptive parameters</li>\n<li>topography (10-20)</li>\n<li>montages</li>\n</ul>\n<p>and per <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/SeshuRajuP\" target=\"_blank\">@SeshuRajuP</a> suggestion video with more theory on EEG monitoring<br>\n</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Start with watching this video:\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDUDeCClRq4&ab_channel=F%C3%A1bioA.Nascimento)\ncontains basic introduction to EEG\n- definitions\n- descriptive parameters\n- topography (10-20)\n- montages\n\nand per @SeshuRajuP suggestion video with more theory on EEG monitoring\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMizSSOejg0&ab_channel=JeremyMoeller)",
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      "id": "2600917",
      "postDate": "01/14/2024 02:18:10",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/radbis\" target=\"_blank\">@radbis</a> <strong>Thanks for sharing. Till now, i gone through many videos but this one is good video for this competition.</strong></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F97be5d1ac46dab557b27923bc347ccab%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%207.40.38AM.png?generation=1705198302760630&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>by youtube summariser</strong></li>\n</ul>\n<h3>if anyone come across this topic also good to share</h3>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<ul>\n<li>from <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/466759#2600487\" target=\"_blank\">Discussion - Spectrogram Data Acquisition Rate</a></li>\n</ul>",
      "rawMarkdown": "radbis **Thanks for sharing. Till now, i gone through many videos but this one is good video for this competition.**\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F97be5d1ac46dab557b27923bc347ccab%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%207.40.38AM.png?generation=1705198302760630&alt=media)\n- **by youtube summariser**\n\n### if anyone come across this topic also good to share\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&alt=media)\n- from [Discussion - Spectrogram Data Acquisition Rate](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/466759#2600487)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2601402",
      "postDate": "01/14/2024 12:05:00",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/radbis\" target=\"_blank\">@radbis</a> Add this video also to your post<br>\n<strong><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMizSSOejg0&amp;ab_channel=JeremyMoeller\" target=\"_blank\">Introduction to EEG</a></strong> ( cover details about LL, LP, RP, RL )<br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Why it called 10-20 system ?</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Ff05b56b2adae287e57e1a734a212c846%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.01PM.png?generation=1705234054093817&amp;alt=media\"><br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F886f8f291ea118ad878e7828b93f4444%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.49PM.png?generation=1705234102821594&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Left Side ( odd numbers ) &amp; Right Side ( even numbers )</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F852eadb7e98e79b07ae2b3c6b93be246%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.39.29PM.png?generation=1705234209810764&amp;alt=media\"><br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F707e26f853d0358c5355eac2b8c913ca%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.40.15PM.png?generation=1705234245724252&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Terminology</h1>\n<ul>\n<li>Fz, Cz, Pz --&gt; z stands Zero</li>\n<li>F, C, P --&gt; Frontal, Central and Parietal ( Front, Center, Back )</li>\n</ul>\n<h1>LL</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F42abf3341243af65c92c8ba2083b9a79%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.27PM.png?generation=1705234855564208&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>LP</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa725bf3a965b4299d0af07f4937216f5%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.38PM.png?generation=1705234875852002&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>RP</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F5869dccab21b6cc3ba7b31e849622d5a%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.02PM.png?generation=1705234897860474&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>RR</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa13eff4393d4fc67fbf3a2bc52294553%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.12PM.png?generation=1705234918197292&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Common Patterns</h1>\n<h2>Eye Blink</h2>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F3e4413a236e04867baf6c456bbd6f105%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.58.09PM.png?generation=1705235422652284&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2ac1a4a3bb8ff340cd2b3245383f01c6%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.01.51PM.png?generation=1705235531899318&amp;alt=media\"><br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2f35f6b81f17bae3ad9bdef46a839fe3%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.02.32PM.png?generation=1705235574626255&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<p><strong>It's more interesting to understand about brain</strong> :)<br>\nupdated same details on notebook <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/seshurajup/eegs-10-20-system\" target=\"_blank\">EEGS 10–20 system</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "radbis Add this video also to your post\n**[Introduction to EEG](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMizSSOejg0&ab_channel=JeremyMoeller)** ( cover details about LL, LP, RP, RL )\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&alt=media)\n\n# Why it called 10-20 system ?\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Ff05b56b2adae287e57e1a734a212c846%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.01PM.png?generation=1705234054093817&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F886f8f291ea118ad878e7828b93f4444%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.49PM.png?generation=1705234102821594&alt=media)\n\n# Left Side ( odd numbers ) & Right Side ( even numbers )\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F852eadb7e98e79b07ae2b3c6b93be246%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.39.29PM.png?generation=1705234209810764&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F707e26f853d0358c5355eac2b8c913ca%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.40.15PM.png?generation=1705234245724252&alt=media)\n\n# Terminology\n* Fz, Cz, Pz --> z stands Zero\n* F, C, P --> Frontal, Central and Parietal ( Front, Center, Back )\n\n# LL\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F42abf3341243af65c92c8ba2083b9a79%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.27PM.png?generation=1705234855564208&alt=media)\n\n#LP\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa725bf3a965b4299d0af07f4937216f5%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.38PM.png?generation=1705234875852002&alt=media)\n\n# RP\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F5869dccab21b6cc3ba7b31e849622d5a%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.02PM.png?generation=1705234897860474&alt=media)\n\n# RR\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa13eff4393d4fc67fbf3a2bc52294553%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.12PM.png?generation=1705234918197292&alt=media)\n\n# Common Patterns\n## Eye Blink\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F3e4413a236e04867baf6c456bbd6f105%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.58.09PM.png?generation=1705235422652284&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2ac1a4a3bb8ff340cd2b3245383f01c6%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.01.51PM.png?generation=1705235531899318&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2f35f6b81f17bae3ad9bdef46a839fe3%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.02.32PM.png?generation=1705235574626255&alt=media)\n\n**It's more interesting to understand about brain** :)\nupdated same details on notebook [EEGS 10–20 system](https://www.kaggle.com/code/seshurajup/eegs-10-20-system)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2603578",
      "postDate": "01/15/2024 21:56:54",
      "content": "<p>HI <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/SeshuRajuP\" target=\"_blank\">@SeshuRajuP</a>, the video you posted is interesting, with more theory on EEG monitoring. I added it to my original post. Thanks!</p>\n<p>By the way - I'm looking for some good introduction to EEG spectrogram construction. What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?<br>\nThere is a nice set of videos from Prerau Lab presenting multitaper approach to spectrogram construction (including python code)<br>\n![Link]<a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6a0f0zR1E&amp;ab_channel=PrerauLab\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6a0f0zR1E&amp;ab_channel=PrerauLab</a><br>\n<br>\n<br>\n\n</p><p>code for multitaper spectrogram construction:<br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/preraulab/multitaper_toolbox\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/preraulab/multitaper_toolbox</a></p>\n<p>wavelets:<br>\nnice introduction to wavelets:<br>\n\n</p><p>code:<br>\n<a href=\"https://pywavelets.readthedocs.io/en/latest/\" target=\"_blank\">https://pywavelets.readthedocs.io/en/latest/</a></p>\n<p>which is better?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "HI @SeshuRajuP, the video you posted is interesting, with more theory on EEG monitoring. I added it to my original post. Thanks!\n\nBy the way - I'm looking for some good introduction to EEG spectrogram construction. What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?\nThere is a nice set of videos from Prerau Lab presenting multitaper approach to spectrogram construction (including python code)\n![Link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6a0f0zR1E&ab_channel=PrerauLab\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsZJLtzNsw&ab_channel=PrerauLab)\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTD7qtHius&ab_channel=PrerauLab)\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTD7qtHius&ab_channel=PrerauLab)\n\ncode for multitaper spectrogram construction:\nhttps://github.com/preraulab/multitaper_toolbox\n\nwavelets:\nnice introduction to wavelets:\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFf5eFpdLg&ab_channel=EEGLAB)\n\ncode:\nhttps://pywavelets.readthedocs.io/en/latest/\n\nwhich is better?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2603584",
      "postDate": "01/15/2024 22:08:16",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/radbis\" target=\"_blank\">@radbis</a> we have egg sub sequences are not close to 10mins but spectrogram is generated with 10mins long. <br>\ncheck this discussion <a href=\"(https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/467877\" target=\"_blank\">How Can We Create Spectrogram From Egg?</a></p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>I realize that we won't have 10 minute window (for the newly create 4 series), so we can't recreate the spectrograms from 50 second windows, but none-the-less, I'm curious how to combine the 20 signals into 4 signals. by <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cdeotte\" target=\"_blank\">@cdeotte</a> </p>\n</blockquote>\n<hr>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?<br>\n  i will explore, as per now i don't know the answer. maybe others who explored can answer this question</p>\n</blockquote>",
      "rawMarkdown": "radbis we have egg sub sequences are not close to 10mins but spectrogram is generated with 10mins long. \ncheck this discussion [How Can We Create Spectrogram From Egg?]((https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/467877)\n> I realize that we won't have 10 minute window (for the newly create 4 series), so we can't recreate the spectrograms from 50 second windows, but none-the-less, I'm curious how to combine the 20 signals into 4 signals. by @cdeotte \n\n------\n> What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?\ni will explore, as per now i don't know the answer. maybe others who explored can answer this question",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2603596",
      "postDate": "01/15/2024 22:50:03",
      "content": "<p>thanks for this info. I'm looking for BKM to generate spectrogram for given EEG set of samples.</p>\n<p>Another option is MNE package - <a href=\"https://mne.tools/stable/auto_examples/time_frequency/time_frequency_simulated.html#sphx-glr-auto-examples-time-frequency-time-frequency-simulated-py\" target=\"_blank\">https://mne.tools/stable/auto_examples/time_frequency/time_frequency_simulated.html#sphx-glr-auto-examples-time-frequency-time-frequency-simulated-py</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "thanks for this info. I'm looking for BKM to generate spectrogram for given EEG set of samples.\n\nAnother option is MNE package - https://mne.tools/stable/auto_examples/time_frequency/time_frequency_simulated.html#sphx-glr-auto-examples-time-frequency-time-frequency-simulated-py",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2603626",
      "postDate": "01/16/2024 00:04:40",
      "content": "<p>I published a starter notebook <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/cdeotte/how-to-make-spectrograms-from-eeg\" target=\"_blank\">here</a> to convert eeg to spectrograms</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I published a starter notebook [here][1] to convert eeg to spectrograms\n\n[1]: https://www.kaggle.com/code/cdeotte/how-to-make-spectrograms-from-eeg",
      "votes": null
    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2600917,
      "author_name": "seshurajup",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/14/2024 02:18:10",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/radbis\" target=\"_blank\">@radbis</a> <strong>Thanks for sharing. Till now, i gone through many videos but this one is good video for this competition.</strong></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F97be5d1ac46dab557b27923bc347ccab%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%207.40.38AM.png?generation=1705198302760630&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>by youtube summariser</strong></li>\n</ul>\n<h3>if anyone come across this topic also good to share</h3>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<ul>\n<li>from <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/466759#2600487\" target=\"_blank\">Discussion - Spectrogram Data Acquisition Rate</a></li>\n</ul>",
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      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2601402,
          "author_name": "seshurajup",
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          "post_date": "01/14/2024 12:05:00",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/radbis\" target=\"_blank\">@radbis</a> Add this video also to your post<br>\n<strong><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMizSSOejg0&amp;ab_channel=JeremyMoeller\" target=\"_blank\">Introduction to EEG</a></strong> ( cover details about LL, LP, RP, RL )<br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Why it called 10-20 system ?</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Ff05b56b2adae287e57e1a734a212c846%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.01PM.png?generation=1705234054093817&amp;alt=media\"><br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F886f8f291ea118ad878e7828b93f4444%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.49PM.png?generation=1705234102821594&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Left Side ( odd numbers ) &amp; Right Side ( even numbers )</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F852eadb7e98e79b07ae2b3c6b93be246%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.39.29PM.png?generation=1705234209810764&amp;alt=media\"><br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F707e26f853d0358c5355eac2b8c913ca%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.40.15PM.png?generation=1705234245724252&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Terminology</h1>\n<ul>\n<li>Fz, Cz, Pz --&gt; z stands Zero</li>\n<li>F, C, P --&gt; Frontal, Central and Parietal ( Front, Center, Back )</li>\n</ul>\n<h1>LL</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F42abf3341243af65c92c8ba2083b9a79%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.27PM.png?generation=1705234855564208&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>LP</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa725bf3a965b4299d0af07f4937216f5%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.38PM.png?generation=1705234875852002&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>RP</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F5869dccab21b6cc3ba7b31e849622d5a%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.02PM.png?generation=1705234897860474&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>RR</h1>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa13eff4393d4fc67fbf3a2bc52294553%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.12PM.png?generation=1705234918197292&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<h1>Common Patterns</h1>\n<h2>Eye Blink</h2>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F3e4413a236e04867baf6c456bbd6f105%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.58.09PM.png?generation=1705235422652284&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2ac1a4a3bb8ff340cd2b3245383f01c6%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.01.51PM.png?generation=1705235531899318&amp;alt=media\"><br>\n<img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2f35f6b81f17bae3ad9bdef46a839fe3%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.02.32PM.png?generation=1705235574626255&amp;alt=media\"></p>\n<p><strong>It's more interesting to understand about brain</strong> :)<br>\nupdated same details on notebook <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/seshurajup/eegs-10-20-system\" target=\"_blank\">EEGS 10–20 system</a></p>",
          "votes": null,
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            {
              "id": 2603578,
              "author_name": "radbis",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "01/15/2024 21:56:54",
              "content": "<p>HI <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/SeshuRajuP\" target=\"_blank\">@SeshuRajuP</a>, the video you posted is interesting, with more theory on EEG monitoring. I added it to my original post. Thanks!</p>\n<p>By the way - I'm looking for some good introduction to EEG spectrogram construction. What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?<br>\nThere is a nice set of videos from Prerau Lab presenting multitaper approach to spectrogram construction (including python code)<br>\n![Link]<a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6a0f0zR1E&amp;ab_channel=PrerauLab\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6a0f0zR1E&amp;ab_channel=PrerauLab</a><br>\n<br>\n<br>\n\n</p><p>code for multitaper spectrogram construction:<br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/preraulab/multitaper_toolbox\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/preraulab/multitaper_toolbox</a></p>\n<p>wavelets:<br>\nnice introduction to wavelets:<br>\n\n</p><p>code:<br>\n<a href=\"https://pywavelets.readthedocs.io/en/latest/\" target=\"_blank\">https://pywavelets.readthedocs.io/en/latest/</a></p>\n<p>which is better?</p>",
              "votes": null,
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                {
                  "id": 2603584,
                  "author_name": "seshurajup",
                  "author_url": "",
                  "post_date": "01/15/2024 22:08:16",
                  "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/radbis\" target=\"_blank\">@radbis</a> we have egg sub sequences are not close to 10mins but spectrogram is generated with 10mins long. <br>\ncheck this discussion <a href=\"(https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/467877\" target=\"_blank\">How Can We Create Spectrogram From Egg?</a></p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>I realize that we won't have 10 minute window (for the newly create 4 series), so we can't recreate the spectrograms from 50 second windows, but none-the-less, I'm curious how to combine the 20 signals into 4 signals. by <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cdeotte\" target=\"_blank\">@cdeotte</a> </p>\n</blockquote>\n<hr>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?<br>\n  i will explore, as per now i don't know the answer. maybe others who explored can answer this question</p>\n</blockquote>",
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                    {
                      "id": 2603596,
                      "author_name": "radbis",
                      "author_url": "",
                      "post_date": "01/15/2024 22:50:03",
                      "content": "<p>thanks for this info. I'm looking for BKM to generate spectrogram for given EEG set of samples.</p>\n<p>Another option is MNE package - <a href=\"https://mne.tools/stable/auto_examples/time_frequency/time_frequency_simulated.html#sphx-glr-auto-examples-time-frequency-time-frequency-simulated-py\" target=\"_blank\">https://mne.tools/stable/auto_examples/time_frequency/time_frequency_simulated.html#sphx-glr-auto-examples-time-frequency-time-frequency-simulated-py</a></p>",
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                        {
                          "id": 2603626,
                          "author_name": "cdeotte",
                          "author_url": "",
                          "post_date": "01/16/2024 00:04:40",
                          "content": "<p>I published a starter notebook <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/cdeotte/how-to-make-spectrograms-from-eeg\" target=\"_blank\">here</a> to convert eeg to spectrograms</p>",
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    "2600884": "Start with watching this video:\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDUDeCClRq4&ab_channel=F%C3%A1bioA.Nascimento)\ncontains basic introduction to EEG\n- definitions\n- descriptive parameters\n- topography (10-20)\n- montages\n\nand per @SeshuRajuP suggestion video with more theory on EEG monitoring\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMizSSOejg0&ab_channel=JeremyMoeller)",
    "2600917": "radbis **Thanks for sharing. Till now, i gone through many videos but this one is good video for this competition.**\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F97be5d1ac46dab557b27923bc347ccab%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%207.40.38AM.png?generation=1705198302760630&alt=media)\n- **by youtube summariser**\n\n### if anyone come across this topic also good to share\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&alt=media)\n- from [Discussion - Spectrogram Data Acquisition Rate](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/466759#2600487)",
    "2601402": "radbis Add this video also to your post\n**[Introduction to EEG](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMizSSOejg0&ab_channel=JeremyMoeller)** ( cover details about LL, LP, RP, RL )\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F4308868%2Ff790d9fba9d01f39b5c688819cc90f64%2Ftileshop.jpg?generation=1705166531784497&alt=media)\n\n# Why it called 10-20 system ?\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Ff05b56b2adae287e57e1a734a212c846%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.01PM.png?generation=1705234054093817&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F886f8f291ea118ad878e7828b93f4444%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.37.49PM.png?generation=1705234102821594&alt=media)\n\n# Left Side ( odd numbers ) & Right Side ( even numbers )\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F852eadb7e98e79b07ae2b3c6b93be246%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.39.29PM.png?generation=1705234209810764&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F707e26f853d0358c5355eac2b8c913ca%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.40.15PM.png?generation=1705234245724252&alt=media)\n\n# Terminology\n* Fz, Cz, Pz --> z stands Zero\n* F, C, P --> Frontal, Central and Parietal ( Front, Center, Back )\n\n# LL\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F42abf3341243af65c92c8ba2083b9a79%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.27PM.png?generation=1705234855564208&alt=media)\n\n#LP\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa725bf3a965b4299d0af07f4937216f5%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.49.38PM.png?generation=1705234875852002&alt=media)\n\n# RP\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F5869dccab21b6cc3ba7b31e849622d5a%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.02PM.png?generation=1705234897860474&alt=media)\n\n# RR\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2Fa13eff4393d4fc67fbf3a2bc52294553%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.50.12PM.png?generation=1705234918197292&alt=media)\n\n# Common Patterns\n## Eye Blink\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F3e4413a236e04867baf6c456bbd6f105%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%205.58.09PM.png?generation=1705235422652284&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2ac1a4a3bb8ff340cd2b3245383f01c6%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.01.51PM.png?generation=1705235531899318&alt=media)\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F761268%2F2f35f6b81f17bae3ad9bdef46a839fe3%2FScreenshot%202024-01-14%20at%206.02.32PM.png?generation=1705235574626255&alt=media)\n\n**It's more interesting to understand about brain** :)\nupdated same details on notebook [EEGS 10–20 system](https://www.kaggle.com/code/seshurajup/eegs-10-20-system)",
    "2603578": "HI @SeshuRajuP, the video you posted is interesting, with more theory on EEG monitoring. I added it to my original post. Thanks!\n\nBy the way - I'm looking for some good introduction to EEG spectrogram construction. What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?\nThere is a nice set of videos from Prerau Lab presenting multitaper approach to spectrogram construction (including python code)\n![Link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6a0f0zR1E&ab_channel=PrerauLab\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVsZJLtzNsw&ab_channel=PrerauLab)\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTD7qtHius&ab_channel=PrerauLab)\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qTD7qtHius&ab_channel=PrerauLab)\n\ncode for multitaper spectrogram construction:\nhttps://github.com/preraulab/multitaper_toolbox\n\nwavelets:\nnice introduction to wavelets:\n![Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFf5eFpdLg&ab_channel=EEGLAB)\n\ncode:\nhttps://pywavelets.readthedocs.io/en/latest/\n\nwhich is better?",
    "2603584": "radbis we have egg sub sequences are not close to 10mins but spectrogram is generated with 10mins long. \ncheck this discussion [How Can We Create Spectrogram From Egg?]((https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/discussion/467877)\n> I realize that we won't have 10 minute window (for the newly create 4 series), so we can't recreate the spectrograms from 50 second windows, but none-the-less, I'm curious how to combine the 20 signals into 4 signals. by @cdeotte \n\n------\n> What is better - multitaper, wavelets approach?\ni will explore, as per now i don't know the answer. maybe others who explored can answer this question",
    "2603596": "thanks for this info. I'm looking for BKM to generate spectrogram for given EEG set of samples.\n\nAnother option is MNE package - https://mne.tools/stable/auto_examples/time_frequency/time_frequency_simulated.html#sphx-glr-auto-examples-time-frequency-time-frequency-simulated-py",
    "2603626": "I published a starter notebook [here][1] to convert eeg to spectrograms\n\n[1]: https://www.kaggle.com/code/cdeotte/how-to-make-spectrograms-from-eeg"
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