{
  "id": 308181,
  "title": "Why all score are 0.00000 ?",
  "url": "/competitions/herbarium-2022-fgvc9/discussion/308181",
  "author_name": "Kiran Sharma",
  "post_date": "2022-02-17T13:07:14.037000",
  "votes": 6,
  "comment_count": 9,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Just checked recently launched competition and found all Members have score 0.00000 <br>\nEvaluation will be as per F1 score, so not getting why everyone getting lowest score !!!! ???</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://i.imgur.com/DTaTHdN.png\" alt=\"\"></p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 1694482,
      "postDate": "2022-02-17T13:07:14.037Z",
      "content": "<p>Just checked recently launched competition and found all Members have score 0.00000 <br>\nEvaluation will be as per F1 score, so not getting why everyone getting lowest score !!!! ???</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://i.imgur.com/DTaTHdN.png\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Just checked recently launched competition and found all Members have score 0.00000 \nEvaluation will be as per F1 score, so not getting why everyone getting lowest score !!!! ???\n\n![](https://i.imgur.com/DTaTHdN.png)",
      "votes": 6
    },
    {
      "id": 1694872,
      "postDate": "2022-02-17T19:30:02.627Z",
      "content": "<p>I don't think anyone has made actual predictions, most of the notebooks look like EDA</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I don't think anyone has made actual predictions, most of the notebooks look like EDA",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1695354,
          "postDate": "2022-02-18T05:10:50.910Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/outwrest\" target=\"_blank\">@outwrest</a> , Yes .. Seems all had just made random submission.<br>\nBut hadn't expect that from public NB 😄</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@outwrest , Yes .. Seems all had just made random submission.\nBut hadn't expect that from public NB 😄",
          "votes": 2
        },
        {
          "id": 1695525,
          "postDate": "2022-02-18T07:42:13.450Z",
          "content": "<p>Another reason is there are a lot of classes and the metric is Macro-F1, so it will be pretty hard to step to the other score. Good luck, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kdsharmaai\" target=\"_blank\">@kdsharmaai</a>! </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Another reason is there are a lot of classes and the metric is Macro-F1, so it will be pretty hard to step to the other score. Good luck, @kdsharmaai! ",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1695589,
          "postDate": "2022-02-18T08:35:03.970Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/vad13irt\" target=\"_blank\">@vad13irt</a> , Yeah! That would be most probable reason </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@vad13irt , Yeah! That would be most probable reason ",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1698260,
          "postDate": "2022-02-20T08:37:36.310Z",
          "content": "<p>Hey, I have another reason! Is it because of overfitting?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Hey, I have another reason! Is it because of overfitting?",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1698386,
          "postDate": "2022-02-20T10:59:46.787Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/dinowun\" target=\"_blank\">@dinowun</a> I think that's unlikely, in that case we would have seen a much larger score 😄</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@dinowun I think that's unlikely, in that case we would have seen a much larger score 😄"
        },
        {
          "id": 1698624,
          "postDate": "2022-02-20T14:39:31.313Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/init27\" target=\"_blank\">@init27</a>  not if everyone some manages to overfit to training dataset 😄😄. In reality, it looks like we have people with scores due to actual models. it is hard to work with all that data (160GB!!) so it makes sense that scores lag behind.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@init27  not if everyone some manages to overfit to training dataset 😄😄. In reality, it looks like we have people with scores due to actual models. it is hard to work with all that data (160GB!!) so it makes sense that scores lag behind.",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 1698850,
          "postDate": "2022-02-20T18:01:29.173Z",
          "content": "<p>Finally we can see some positive scoring 😄</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Finally we can see some positive scoring 😄"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1707580,
      "postDate": "2022-02-28T15:35:07.440Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/herbarium-2022-fgvc9/discussion/310277\" target=\"_blank\">No award ranking points + NO count towards tiers = No Motivation</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "[No award ranking points + NO count towards tiers = No Motivation](https://www.kaggle.com/c/herbarium-2022-fgvc9/discussion/310277)"
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1694872,
      "author_name": "outwrest",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2022-02-17T19:30:02.627000",
      "content": "<p>I don't think anyone has made actual predictions, most of the notebooks look like EDA</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1695354,
          "author_name": "Kiran Sharma",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2022-02-18T05:10:50.910000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/outwrest\" target=\"_blank\">@outwrest</a> , Yes .. Seems all had just made random submission.<br>\nBut hadn't expect that from public NB 😄</p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1695525,
          "author_name": "Vadim Irtlach",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2022-02-18T07:42:13.450000",
          "content": "<p>Another reason is there are a lot of classes and the metric is Macro-F1, so it will be pretty hard to step to the other score. Good luck, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kdsharmaai\" target=\"_blank\">@kdsharmaai</a>! </p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1695589,
          "author_name": "Kiran Sharma",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2022-02-18T08:35:03.970000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/vad13irt\" target=\"_blank\">@vad13irt</a> , Yeah! That would be most probable reason </p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1698260,
          "author_name": "Dino Wun",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2022-02-20T08:37:36.310000",
          "content": "<p>Hey, I have another reason! Is it because of overfitting?</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1698386,
          "author_name": "Sanyam Bhutani",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2022-02-20T10:59:46.787000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/dinowun\" target=\"_blank\">@dinowun</a> I think that's unlikely, in that case we would have seen a much larger score 😄</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1698624,
          "author_name": "outwrest",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2022-02-20T14:39:31.313000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/init27\" target=\"_blank\">@init27</a>  not if everyone some manages to overfit to training dataset 😄😄. In reality, it looks like we have people with scores due to actual models. it is hard to work with all that data (160GB!!) so it makes sense that scores lag behind.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1698850,
          "author_name": "Kiran Sharma",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2022-02-20T18:01:29.173000",
          "content": "<p>Finally we can see some positive scoring 😄</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1707580,
      "author_name": "Faisal Alsrheed",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2022-02-28T15:35:07.440000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/herbarium-2022-fgvc9/discussion/310277\" target=\"_blank\">No award ranking points + NO count towards tiers = No Motivation</a></p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
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    "1694482": "Just checked recently launched competition and found all Members have score 0.00000 \nEvaluation will be as per F1 score, so not getting why everyone getting lowest score !!!! ???\n\n![](https://i.imgur.com/DTaTHdN.png)",
    "1694872": "I don't think anyone has made actual predictions, most of the notebooks look like EDA",
    "1707580": "[No award ranking points + NO count towards tiers = No Motivation](https://www.kaggle.com/c/herbarium-2022-fgvc9/discussion/310277)"
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