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  "id": 306918,
  "title": "Whats your best score using Arcface + Small images(224) + Small arch (B0-B1 efficient etc)?",
  "url": "/competitions/happy-whale-and-dolphin/discussion/306918",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2022-02-11T13:56:57.604351500Z",
  "votes": 7,
  "comment_count": 5,
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  "content": "<p>So before jumping into some massive models networks i wanted to reimplement in pytorch some of the solutions there are so far (efficient net  + arc face tpu notebook for instance) but on a smaller scale. to easily train on one rtx3090.</p>\n<p>Im bit suprised bc using b0-b1 + Arcface and a similar scheme for choosing the thresholds as the TPU notebooks, the most im getting is ~0.3LB. Im a bit suprised that model size itself has such a big influence. Or maybe i have some bugs, anyone trained something similar and wants to share their scores  and findings?</p>",
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    {
      "id": "1685723",
      "postDate": "02/11/2022 13:56:57",
      "content": "<p>So before jumping into some massive models networks i wanted to reimplement in pytorch some of the solutions there are so far (efficient net  + arc face tpu notebook for instance) but on a smaller scale. to easily train on one rtx3090.</p>\n<p>Im bit suprised bc using b0-b1 + Arcface and a similar scheme for choosing the thresholds as the TPU notebooks, the most im getting is ~0.3LB. Im a bit suprised that model size itself has such a big influence. Or maybe i have some bugs, anyone trained something similar and wants to share their scores  and findings?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "So before jumping into some massive models networks i wanted to reimplement in pytorch some of the solutions there are so far (efficient net  + arc face tpu notebook for instance) but on a smaller scale. to easily train on one rtx3090.\n\nIm bit suprised bc using b0-b1 + Arcface and a similar scheme for choosing the thresholds as the TPU notebooks, the most im getting is ~0.3LB. Im a bit suprised that model size itself has such a big influence. Or maybe i have some bugs, anyone trained something similar and wants to share their scores  and findings?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1685963",
      "postDate": "02/11/2022 16:49:24",
      "content": "<p>I guess one of your problem is image size, if you have look at data, you will some images like <code>00b773df4a863d.jpg</code>, where the object is only 5-10% of image, it has around 0 info at 224 scale </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I guess one of your problem is image size, if you have look at data, you will some images like `00b773df4a863d.jpg`, where the object is only 5-10% of image, it has around 0 info at 224 scale",
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    },
    {
      "id": "1686128",
      "postDate": "02/11/2022 19:17:54",
      "content": "<p>Well I have similar results ~0.38LB with 224x224 images and efficientnet B0</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Well I have similar results ~0.38LB with 224x224 images and efficientnet B0",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1686193",
      "postDate": "02/11/2022 20:52:39",
      "content": "<p>0.38 vs 0.30 is a huge diff;) and a result i would feel ok with, given small model and small image sizes.  Theo did you do anything unusual to achieve that? <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wolfy73\" target=\"_blank\">@wolfy73</a> </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "0.38 vs 0.30 is a huge diff;) and a result i would feel ok with, given small model and small image sizes.  Theo did you do anything unusual to achieve that? @wolfy73",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1690715",
      "postDate": "02/15/2022 04:25:55",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing your insights. If I may ask, are you directly tried to cluster individual ids with arcface?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for sharing your insights. If I may ask, are you directly tried to cluster individual ids with arcface?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1693250",
      "postDate": "02/16/2022 14:47:55",
      "content": "<p>I got similar score (0.300 LB), effnet_b0, image size 256, Arcface, no augmentations other than normalising, and the model is overfitting badly :/</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I got similar score (0.300 LB), effnet_b0, image size 256, Arcface, no augmentations other than normalising, and the model is overfitting badly :/",
      "votes": null
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1685963,
      "author_name": "kwentar",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/11/2022 16:49:24",
      "content": "<p>I guess one of your problem is image size, if you have look at data, you will some images like <code>00b773df4a863d.jpg</code>, where the object is only 5-10% of image, it has around 0 info at 224 scale </p>",
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    {
      "id": 1686128,
      "author_name": "wolfy73",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/11/2022 19:17:54",
      "content": "<p>Well I have similar results ~0.38LB with 224x224 images and efficientnet B0</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 1686193,
      "author_name": "crimzoid",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/11/2022 20:52:39",
      "content": "<p>0.38 vs 0.30 is a huge diff;) and a result i would feel ok with, given small model and small image sizes.  Theo did you do anything unusual to achieve that? <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wolfy73\" target=\"_blank\">@wolfy73</a> </p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 1690715,
      "author_name": "bsridatta",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/15/2022 04:25:55",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing your insights. If I may ask, are you directly tried to cluster individual ids with arcface?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1693250,
      "author_name": "atharvaingle",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "02/16/2022 14:47:55",
      "content": "<p>I got similar score (0.300 LB), effnet_b0, image size 256, Arcface, no augmentations other than normalising, and the model is overfitting badly :/</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "1685723": "So before jumping into some massive models networks i wanted to reimplement in pytorch some of the solutions there are so far (efficient net  + arc face tpu notebook for instance) but on a smaller scale. to easily train on one rtx3090.\n\nIm bit suprised bc using b0-b1 + Arcface and a similar scheme for choosing the thresholds as the TPU notebooks, the most im getting is ~0.3LB. Im a bit suprised that model size itself has such a big influence. Or maybe i have some bugs, anyone trained something similar and wants to share their scores  and findings?",
    "1685963": "I guess one of your problem is image size, if you have look at data, you will some images like `00b773df4a863d.jpg`, where the object is only 5-10% of image, it has around 0 info at 224 scale",
    "1686128": "Well I have similar results ~0.38LB with 224x224 images and efficientnet B0",
    "1686193": "0.38 vs 0.30 is a huge diff;) and a result i would feel ok with, given small model and small image sizes.  Theo did you do anything unusual to achieve that? @wolfy73",
    "1690715": "Thanks for sharing your insights. If I may ask, are you directly tried to cluster individual ids with arcface?",
    "1693250": "I got similar score (0.300 LB), effnet_b0, image size 256, Arcface, no augmentations other than normalising, and the model is overfitting badly :/"
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