{
  "id": 270359,
  "title": "Are we allowed to use generated signal (without noise) for training without publishing it? ",
  "url": "/competitions/g2net-gravitational-wave-detection/discussion/270359",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2021-09-04T20:32:02.471300900Z",
  "votes": 1,
  "comment_count": 5,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Competition rules on the use of external data state the following:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Does this imply that if I use, say, pycbc for generating gravitational wave signal without noise, I should make all generated data public? Or, since pycbc can be used by anyone, I can use the data without publishing it?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "1503001",
      "postDate": "09/04/2021 20:32:02",
      "content": "<p>Competition rules on the use of external data state the following:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Does this imply that if I use, say, pycbc for generating gravitational wave signal without noise, I should make all generated data public? Or, since pycbc can be used by anyone, I can use the data without publishing it?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Competition rules on the use of external data state the following:\n\n> C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants.\n\nDoes this imply that if I use, say, pycbc for generating gravitational wave signal without noise, I should make all generated data public? Or, since pycbc can be used by anyone, I can use the data without publishing it?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1503046",
      "postDate": "09/04/2021 22:34:59",
      "content": "<p>The former.</p>\n<p>If it does end up working, kindly let us know if that is beneficial, so we can add it to the list of experiments to iterate on =). Just a request ^_^;</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The former.\n\nIf it does end up working, kindly let us know if that is beneficial, so we can add it to the list of experiments to iterate on =). Just a request ^_^;",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1503483",
      "postDate": "09/05/2021 11:51:51",
      "content": "<p>Thank you for the reply!</p>\n<p>But why it was downvoted? The provided answer is incorrect?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for the reply!\n\nBut why it was downvoted? The provided answer is incorrect?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1503491",
      "postDate": "09/05/2021 11:59:09",
      "content": "<p>Pay no need, it is correct.</p>\n<p>In the distant past, one would have to publicize, and often a thread was created for doing this. Now, the rules are just as they are written. So long as it is public, and everyone has free-equal access to it, and the licenses behind it don't violate any competition constraints, then it is valid. I don't know exactly when doing that was a requirement was stopped, but for example, someone asked the question verbatim and one of the Kaggle staff clarified—just in the very last competition that concluded: SETI. You can see in the forums there.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Pay no need, it is correct.\n\nIn the distant past, one would have to publicize, and often a thread was created for doing this. Now, the rules are just as they are written. So long as it is public, and everyone has free-equal access to it, and the licenses behind it don't violate any competition constraints, then it is valid. I don't know exactly when doing that was a requirement was stopped, but for example, someone asked the question verbatim and one of the Kaggle staff clarified—just in the very last competition that concluded: SETI. You can see in the forums there.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1503518",
      "postDate": "09/05/2021 12:28:38",
      "content": "<p>This is not external data if someone generates synthetic waves. IMHO, they don't need to disclose the dataset so generated. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This is not external data if someone generates synthetic waves. IMHO, they don't need to disclose the dataset so generated.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1559957",
      "postDate": "10/27/2021 08:37:21",
      "content": "<p>Hey All,</p>\n<p>Thank you all for taking part in our competition. The participation has been overwhelmingly positive. We are currently conducting a survey to gauge the demographic and outreach achieved. Kindly spare 2min and fill in this survey <a href=\"https://forms.gle/QP9L16niPexozyhu5\" target=\"_blank\">https://forms.gle/QP9L16niPexozyhu5</a>.</p>\n<p>Thank you all,</p>\n<p>Regards,<br>\nChris</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hey All,\n\nThank you all for taking part in our competition. The participation has been overwhelmingly positive. We are currently conducting a survey to gauge the demographic and outreach achieved. Kindly spare 2min and fill in this survey https://forms.gle/QP9L16niPexozyhu5.\n\nThank you all,\n\nRegards,\nChris",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1503046,
      "author_name": "authman",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/04/2021 22:34:59",
      "content": "<p>The former.</p>\n<p>If it does end up working, kindly let us know if that is beneficial, so we can add it to the list of experiments to iterate on =). Just a request ^_^;</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1503483,
          "author_name": "ivankharuk",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "09/05/2021 11:51:51",
          "content": "<p>Thank you for the reply!</p>\n<p>But why it was downvoted? The provided answer is incorrect?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1503491,
          "author_name": "authman",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "09/05/2021 11:59:09",
          "content": "<p>Pay no need, it is correct.</p>\n<p>In the distant past, one would have to publicize, and often a thread was created for doing this. Now, the rules are just as they are written. So long as it is public, and everyone has free-equal access to it, and the licenses behind it don't violate any competition constraints, then it is valid. I don't know exactly when doing that was a requirement was stopped, but for example, someone asked the question verbatim and one of the Kaggle staff clarified—just in the very last competition that concluded: SETI. You can see in the forums there.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1503518,
          "author_name": "pheadrus",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "09/05/2021 12:28:38",
          "content": "<p>This is not external data if someone generates synthetic waves. IMHO, they don't need to disclose the dataset so generated. </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1559957,
      "author_name": "zerafachris",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/27/2021 08:37:21",
      "content": "<p>Hey All,</p>\n<p>Thank you all for taking part in our competition. The participation has been overwhelmingly positive. We are currently conducting a survey to gauge the demographic and outreach achieved. Kindly spare 2min and fill in this survey <a href=\"https://forms.gle/QP9L16niPexozyhu5\" target=\"_blank\">https://forms.gle/QP9L16niPexozyhu5</a>.</p>\n<p>Thank you all,</p>\n<p>Regards,<br>\nChris</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
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    "1503001": "Competition rules on the use of external data state the following:\n\n> C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants.\n\nDoes this imply that if I use, say, pycbc for generating gravitational wave signal without noise, I should make all generated data public? Or, since pycbc can be used by anyone, I can use the data without publishing it?",
    "1503046": "The former.\n\nIf it does end up working, kindly let us know if that is beneficial, so we can add it to the list of experiments to iterate on =). Just a request ^_^;",
    "1503483": "Thank you for the reply!\n\nBut why it was downvoted? The provided answer is incorrect?",
    "1503491": "Pay no need, it is correct.\n\nIn the distant past, one would have to publicize, and often a thread was created for doing this. Now, the rules are just as they are written. So long as it is public, and everyone has free-equal access to it, and the licenses behind it don't violate any competition constraints, then it is valid. I don't know exactly when doing that was a requirement was stopped, but for example, someone asked the question verbatim and one of the Kaggle staff clarified—just in the very last competition that concluded: SETI. You can see in the forums there.",
    "1503518": "This is not external data if someone generates synthetic waves. IMHO, they don't need to disclose the dataset so generated.",
    "1559957": "Hey All,\n\nThank you all for taking part in our competition. The participation has been overwhelmingly positive. We are currently conducting a survey to gauge the demographic and outreach achieved. Kindly spare 2min and fill in this survey https://forms.gle/QP9L16niPexozyhu5.\n\nThank you all,\n\nRegards,\nChris"
  },
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