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  "id": 14173,
  "title": "Does Matlab code submission satisfy rules?",
  "url": "/competitions/diabetic-retinopathy-detection/discussion/14173",
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  "post_date": "2015-05-12T16:56:30.223Z",
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  "content": "<p>After reading the rules several times it is not clear whether a Matlab code submission satisfies the contest rules so I am asking for a ruling by the organizers.</p>\n<p>The question occurs because the code requires a proprietary (and very expensive) environment to execute it. This may not satisfy this condition of the rules (and perhaps others):</p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">* grants to Competition Sponsor and its designees a worldwide, non-exclusive, sub-licensable, transferable, fully paid-up, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable right to use, not use, reproduce, distribute, create derivative works of, publicly perform, publicly display, digitally perform, make, have made, sell, offer for sale and import their winning Submission and the source code used to generate the Submission, in any media now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without further approval by or payment to Participant; and<br>* represents that he/she/it has the unrestricted right to grant that license.</p>",
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      "postDate": "05/12/2015 16:56:30",
      "content": "<p>After reading the rules several times it is not clear whether a Matlab code submission satisfies the contest rules so I am asking for a ruling by the organizers.</p>\n<p>The question occurs because the code requires a proprietary (and very expensive) environment to execute it. This may not satisfy this condition of the rules (and perhaps others):</p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">* grants to Competition Sponsor and its designees a worldwide, non-exclusive, sub-licensable, transferable, fully paid-up, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable right to use, not use, reproduce, distribute, create derivative works of, publicly perform, publicly display, digitally perform, make, have made, sell, offer for sale and import their winning Submission and the source code used to generate the Submission, in any media now known or hereafter developed, for any purpose whatsoever, commercial or otherwise, without further approval by or payment to Participant; and<br>* represents that he/she/it has the unrestricted right to grant that license.</p>",
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      "id": "78128",
      "postDate": "05/12/2015 21:01:36",
      "content": "<p>I am using MATLAB and it was my question too.</p>\n<p>However i guess that it wouldn't be a problem because you can port your code without almost no modification to Octave which is free and open source.(am i right?)</p>",
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      "id": "78131",
      "postDate": "05/12/2015 21:36:51",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Mehdi Pedram;78128]</p>\n<p>I am using MATLAB and it was my question too.</p>\n<p>However i guess that it wouldn't be a problem because you can port your code without almost no modification to Octave which is free and open source.(am i right?)</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Yes, I think Octave is open-source but is it the right flavor? The open-source rules are pretty unintelligible to me. It would be good to get a ruling from the moderators.</p>",
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      "id": "78213",
      "postDate": "05/13/2015 13:51:31",
      "content": "<p>Hi all,</p>\n<p>Please see my comment in&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/diabetic-retinopathy-detection/forums/t/12701/proprietary-software-allowed-or-not/67356\">this thread</a>.</p>\n<p>tl;dr - Octave is fine. You will&nbsp;want to avoid&nbsp;MATLAB if want to be 100% safe, but you can certainly try the problem with MATLAB and cross that bridge if you win a prize. We try to put the science first, but we also want the winning results to be free to use.</p>",
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      "id": 78128,
      "author_name": "pedram",
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      "post_date": "05/12/2015 21:01:36",
      "content": "<p>I am using MATLAB and it was my question too.</p>\n<p>However i guess that it wouldn't be a problem because you can port your code without almost no modification to Octave which is free and open source.(am i right?)</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    {
      "id": 78131,
      "author_name": "bobalv",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/12/2015 21:36:51",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Mehdi Pedram;78128]</p>\n<p>I am using MATLAB and it was my question too.</p>\n<p>However i guess that it wouldn't be a problem because you can port your code without almost no modification to Octave which is free and open source.(am i right?)</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>Yes, I think Octave is open-source but is it the right flavor? The open-source rules are pretty unintelligible to me. It would be good to get a ruling from the moderators.</p>",
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      "id": 78213,
      "author_name": "wcukierski",
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      "post_date": "05/13/2015 13:51:31",
      "content": "<p>Hi all,</p>\n<p>Please see my comment in&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/diabetic-retinopathy-detection/forums/t/12701/proprietary-software-allowed-or-not/67356\">this thread</a>.</p>\n<p>tl;dr - Octave is fine. You will&nbsp;want to avoid&nbsp;MATLAB if want to be 100% safe, but you can certainly try the problem with MATLAB and cross that bridge if you win a prize. We try to put the science first, but we also want the winning results to be free to use.</p>",
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