One of the topics that is discussed is the alternate avenues of fighting against deepfakes like some form of video frames being signed and then later verified as real or fake, but Danielle points out that that presupposes ubiquitous adoption. The only way a technology like that would work is if every single camera had that technology otherwise one could just claim it came from an unauthenticated camera and there would be no way to prove it.
\n\nOne of the things I find particularly terrifying is in many of the deepfake setups an encoder and decoder is used that is specifically trained to learn the likeness of an individual. If a bad actor trains an exceptionally good decoder for a specific person they can just sell it and swap with other people and then you have a massive marketplace just exchanging the rights to peoples faces. This might have some beneficial uses like in the media industry but there are also plenty of places we definitely do not want that leaking into.
\n\nAfter doing research on these techniques it's a bit terrifying how easy it is to use. A tech savvy high schooler with a gaming pc could probably figure out how to generate convincing fakes.
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\n\nOne of the things I find particularly terrifying is in many of the deepfake setups an encoder and decoder is used that is specifically trained to learn the likeness of an individual. If a bad actor trains an exceptionally good decoder for a specific person they can just sell it and swap with other people and then you have a massive marketplace just exchanging the rights to peoples faces. This might have some beneficial uses like in the media industry but there are also plenty of places we definitely do not want that leaking into.
\n\nAfter doing research on these techniques it's a bit terrifying how easy it is to use. A tech savvy high schooler with a gaming pc could probably figure out how to generate convincing fakes.
", "rawMarkdown": "[link](http://reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/fi1du7/im_danielle_citron_privacy_law_civil_rights/)\n\nOne of the topics that is discussed is the alternate avenues of fighting against deepfakes like some form of video frames being signed and then later verified as real or fake, but Danielle points out that that presupposes ubiquitous adoption. The only way a technology like that would work is if every single camera had that technology otherwise one could just claim it came from an unauthenticated camera and there would be no way to prove it. \n\nOne of the things I find particularly terrifying is in many of the deepfake setups an encoder and decoder is used that is specifically trained to learn the likeness of an individual. If a bad actor trains an exceptionally good decoder for a specific person they can just sell it and swap with other people and then you have a massive marketplace just exchanging the rights to peoples faces. This might have some beneficial uses like in the media industry but there are also plenty of places we definitely do not want that leaking into. \n\nAfter doing research on these techniques it's a bit terrifying how easy it is to use. A tech savvy high schooler with a gaming pc could probably figure out how to generate convincing fakes.", "votes": null }, { "id": "771485", "postDate": "03/14/2020 08:16:27", "content": "Deepfakes could also be used in places like political blackmail, or even faking broadcasts of public speeches. The implications of deepfakes are truly nightmarish.
", "rawMarkdown": "Deepfakes could also be used in places like political blackmail, or even faking broadcasts of public speeches. The implications of deepfakes are truly nightmarish.", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 771485, "author_name": "nxrprime", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/14/2020 08:16:27", "content": "Deepfakes could also be used in places like political blackmail, or even faking broadcasts of public speeches. The implications of deepfakes are truly nightmarish.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "771310": "[link](http://reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/fi1du7/im_danielle_citron_privacy_law_civil_rights/)\n\nOne of the topics that is discussed is the alternate avenues of fighting against deepfakes like some form of video frames being signed and then later verified as real or fake, but Danielle points out that that presupposes ubiquitous adoption. The only way a technology like that would work is if every single camera had that technology otherwise one could just claim it came from an unauthenticated camera and there would be no way to prove it. \n\nOne of the things I find particularly terrifying is in many of the deepfake setups an encoder and decoder is used that is specifically trained to learn the likeness of an individual. If a bad actor trains an exceptionally good decoder for a specific person they can just sell it and swap with other people and then you have a massive marketplace just exchanging the rights to peoples faces. This might have some beneficial uses like in the media industry but there are also plenty of places we definitely do not want that leaking into. \n\nAfter doing research on these techniques it's a bit terrifying how easy it is to use. A tech savvy high schooler with a gaming pc could probably figure out how to generate convincing fakes.", "771485": "Deepfakes could also be used in places like political blackmail, or even faking broadcasts of public speeches. The implications of deepfakes are truly nightmarish." }, "source": "meta" }