{
  "id": 16493,
  "title": "Competition is now reset",
  "url": "/competitions/dato-native/discussion/16493",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2015-09-14T23:28:34.633Z",
  "votes": 5,
  "comment_count": 12,
  "views": 2476,
  "content": "<p>As of 11:23PM UTC, the new dataset is uploaded, revised training list is uploaded, and all submissions are rescored. Please refer to the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/data\">Data Page</a> for all the changes that have been made to the dataset. </p>\n\n<p>Note that:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>If you downloaded the data prior to 9/14/2015, please re-download the new files: 5.zip, train_v2.csv, and sampleSubmission_v2.csv. </li>\n<li>If you made a submission prior to 9/14/2015, your entry is invalidated due to the reset. Please re-run your model and submit again before the first submission deadline. </li>\n<li>Deadline has been extended for one week. See the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/details/timeline\">timeline page</a>. </li>\n</ul>",
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    {
      "id": "92622",
      "postDate": "09/14/2015 23:28:34",
      "content": "<p>As of 11:23PM UTC, the new dataset is uploaded, revised training list is uploaded, and all submissions are rescored. Please refer to the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/data\">Data Page</a> for all the changes that have been made to the dataset. </p>\n\n<p>Note that:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>If you downloaded the data prior to 9/14/2015, please re-download the new files: 5.zip, train_v2.csv, and sampleSubmission_v2.csv. </li>\n<li>If you made a submission prior to 9/14/2015, your entry is invalidated due to the reset. Please re-run your model and submit again before the first submission deadline. </li>\n<li>Deadline has been extended for one week. See the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/details/timeline\">timeline page</a>. </li>\n</ul>",
      "rawMarkdown": "As of 11:23PM UTC, the new dataset is uploaded, revised training list is uploaded, and all submissions are rescored. Please refer to the [Data Page][1] for all the changes that have been made to the dataset. \r\n\r\nNote that:\r\n\r\n - If you downloaded the data prior to 9/14/2015, please re-download the new files: 5.zip, train_v2.csv, and sampleSubmission_v2.csv. \r\n - If you made a submission prior to 9/14/2015, your entry is invalidated due to the reset. Please re-run your model and submit again before the first submission deadline. \r\n - Deadline has been extended for one week. See the [timeline page][2]. \r\n\r\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/data\r\n  [2]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/details/timeline",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92640",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 02:09:59",
      "content": "<p>That means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.</p>\n\n<p>EDIT: Just to add a little context, our team was in the 7th place (6th, without leakage) with a score of 0.96268 a few days ago.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "That means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.\r\n\r\nEDIT: Just to add a little context, our team was in the 7th place (6th, without leakage) with a score of 0.96268 a few days ago.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92644",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 02:36:05",
      "content": "<p>Are teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Are teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92646",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 03:01:44",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Giulio;92644]\nAre teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).\n[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>I do not think that would be a major issue, unless one of those team wins, money split could be a bit tricky XD.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "[quote=Giulio;92644]\r\nAre teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nI do not think that would be a major issue, unless one of those team wins, money split could be a bit tricky XD.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92647",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 03:15:04",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Subhajit Mandal;92640]</p>\n\n<p>That means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Find another leak :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "[quote=Subhajit Mandal;92640]\r\n\r\nThat means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nFind another leak :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92654",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 05:52:01",
      "content": "<p>Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92659",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 07:30:56",
      "content": "<p>Beware of malware again, we don't know if that was checked in the new dataset.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Beware of malware again, we don't know if that was checked in the new dataset.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92660",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 07:38:24",
      "content": "<p>sorry, double post</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "sorry, double post",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92708",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 21:11:01",
      "content": "<p>@Giulio, @NxGTR,</p>\n\n<p>Unfortunately, due to how our site is set up, it's not possible to disband your teams after the team has made submissions. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Giulio, @NxGTR,\r\n\r\nUnfortunately, due to how our site is set up, it's not possible to disband your teams after the team has made submissions.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92714",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 22:12:48",
      "content": "<p>I am not asking to disband my team, however, when it's Kaggle and/or Sponsor fault and a mess happen to competitions I think the rules should be revised. Like, definitely something to learn and try to improve for next time this happen again.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am not asking to disband my team, however, when it's Kaggle and/or Sponsor fault and a mess happen to competitions I think the rules should be revised. Like, definitely something to learn and try to improve for next time this happen again.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92721",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 23:41:44",
      "content": "<p>[quote=felixlaumon;92654]</p>\n\n<p>Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Here's what I have for md5sum: </p>\n\n<p>a3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip</p>\n\n<p>4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip</p>\n\n<p>0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip</p>\n\n<p>9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip</p>\n\n<p>510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip</p>\n\n<p>e7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "[quote=felixlaumon;92654]\r\n\r\nAre the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nHere's what I have for md5sum: \r\n\r\na3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip\r\n\r\n4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip\r\n\r\n0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip\r\n\r\n9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip\r\n\r\n510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip\r\n\r\ne7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92723",
      "postDate": "09/15/2015 23:56:58",
      "content": "<p>@NxGTR,\nI would change the rules if I could, but our platform simply doesn't allow us to disband teams unless we wipe out everything, including submissions, and start a brand new competition. Submissions are linked to teams, so if you delete teams, old submissions have no where to go.</p>\n\n<p>We did learn from this experience and hopefully we can avoid leakages all together in the future when designing competitions. Thank you for your suggestion. </p>\n\n<p>Again, I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "NxGTR,\r\nI would change the rules if I could, but our platform simply doesn't allow us to disband teams unless we wipe out everything, including submissions, and start a brand new competition. Submissions are linked to teams, so if you delete teams, old submissions have no where to go.\r\n\r\nWe did learn from this experience and hopefully we can avoid leakages all together in the future when designing competitions. Thank you for your suggestion. \r\n\r\nAgain, I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "92980",
      "postDate": "09/19/2015 10:25:15",
      "content": "<p>[quote=firefly2442;92721]</p>\n\n<p>[quote=felixlaumon;92654]</p>\n\n<p>Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Here's what I have for md5sum: </p>\n\n<p>a3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip</p>\n\n<p>4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip</p>\n\n<p>0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip</p>\n\n<p>9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip</p>\n\n<p>510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip</p>\n\n<p>e7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Thank you!</p>\n\n<p>It'll be great if Kaggle can post the md5sum in future competitions.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "[quote=firefly2442;92721]\r\n\r\n[quote=felixlaumon;92654]\r\n\r\nAre the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nHere's what I have for md5sum: \r\n\r\na3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip\r\n\r\n4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip\r\n\r\n0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip\r\n\r\n9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip\r\n\r\n510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip\r\n\r\ne7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip\r\n\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nThank you!\r\n\r\nIt'll be great if Kaggle can post the md5sum in future competitions.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 92640,
      "author_name": "mandalsubhajit",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 02:09:59",
      "content": "<p>That means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.</p>\n\n<p>EDIT: Just to add a little context, our team was in the 7th place (6th, without leakage) with a score of 0.96268 a few days ago.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92644,
      "author_name": "adjgiulio",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 02:36:05",
      "content": "<p>Are teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92646,
      "author_name": "carloshuertas",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 03:01:44",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Giulio;92644]\nAre teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).\n[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>I do not think that would be a major issue, unless one of those team wins, money split could be a bit tricky XD.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92647,
      "author_name": "asaini",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 03:15:04",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Subhajit Mandal;92640]</p>\n\n<p>That means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Find another leak :)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92654,
      "author_name": "felixlaumon",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 05:52:01",
      "content": "<p>Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92659,
      "author_name": "wildwizard",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 07:30:56",
      "content": "<p>Beware of malware again, we don't know if that was checked in the new dataset.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92660,
      "author_name": "wildwizard",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 07:38:24",
      "content": "<p>sorry, double post</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92708,
      "author_name": "wendykan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 21:11:01",
      "content": "<p>@Giulio, @NxGTR,</p>\n\n<p>Unfortunately, due to how our site is set up, it's not possible to disband your teams after the team has made submissions. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92714,
      "author_name": "carloshuertas",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 22:12:48",
      "content": "<p>I am not asking to disband my team, however, when it's Kaggle and/or Sponsor fault and a mess happen to competitions I think the rules should be revised. Like, definitely something to learn and try to improve for next time this happen again.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92721,
      "author_name": "firefly2442",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 23:41:44",
      "content": "<p>[quote=felixlaumon;92654]</p>\n\n<p>Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Here's what I have for md5sum: </p>\n\n<p>a3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip</p>\n\n<p>4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip</p>\n\n<p>0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip</p>\n\n<p>9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip</p>\n\n<p>510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip</p>\n\n<p>e7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92723,
      "author_name": "wendykan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/15/2015 23:56:58",
      "content": "<p>@NxGTR,\nI would change the rules if I could, but our platform simply doesn't allow us to disband teams unless we wipe out everything, including submissions, and start a brand new competition. Submissions are linked to teams, so if you delete teams, old submissions have no where to go.</p>\n\n<p>We did learn from this experience and hopefully we can avoid leakages all together in the future when designing competitions. Thank you for your suggestion. </p>\n\n<p>Again, I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 92980,
      "author_name": "felixlaumon",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "09/19/2015 10:25:15",
      "content": "<p>[quote=firefly2442;92721]</p>\n\n<p>[quote=felixlaumon;92654]</p>\n\n<p>Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Here's what I have for md5sum: </p>\n\n<p>a3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip</p>\n\n<p>4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip</p>\n\n<p>0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip</p>\n\n<p>9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip</p>\n\n<p>510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip</p>\n\n<p>e7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip</p>\n\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n\n<p>Thank you!</p>\n\n<p>It'll be great if Kaggle can post the md5sum in future competitions.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "92622": "As of 11:23PM UTC, the new dataset is uploaded, revised training list is uploaded, and all submissions are rescored. Please refer to the [Data Page][1] for all the changes that have been made to the dataset. \r\n\r\nNote that:\r\n\r\n - If you downloaded the data prior to 9/14/2015, please re-download the new files: 5.zip, train_v2.csv, and sampleSubmission_v2.csv. \r\n - If you made a submission prior to 9/14/2015, your entry is invalidated due to the reset. Please re-run your model and submit again before the first submission deadline. \r\n - Deadline has been extended for one week. See the [timeline page][2]. \r\n\r\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/data\r\n  [2]: https://www.kaggle.com/c/dato-native/details/timeline",
    "92640": "That means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.\r\n\r\nEDIT: Just to add a little context, our team was in the 7th place (6th, without leakage) with a score of 0.96268 a few days ago.",
    "92644": "Are teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).",
    "92646": "[quote=Giulio;92644]\r\nAre teams locked in or are those also reset? I ask because the leak has triggered a lot of team mergers that otherwise would have not happened (or made sense).\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nI do not think that would be a major issue, unless one of those team wins, money split could be a bit tricky XD.",
    "92647": "[quote=Subhajit Mandal;92640]\r\n\r\nThat means each model will take 24+ hours now to run on whole data, if I was to follow the same methodology as before reset. So, the success in this competition now became proportional to computing power. And all the work done previously (including restarting the laptop when it can not take it anymore) has just gone to waste. It seems a little unfair.\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nFind another leak :)",
    "92654": "Are the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!",
    "92659": "Beware of malware again, we don't know if that was checked in the new dataset.",
    "92660": "sorry, double post",
    "92708": "Giulio, @NxGTR,\r\n\r\nUnfortunately, due to how our site is set up, it's not possible to disband your teams after the team has made submissions.",
    "92714": "I am not asking to disband my team, however, when it's Kaggle and/or Sponsor fault and a mess happen to competitions I think the rules should be revised. Like, definitely something to learn and try to improve for next time this happen again.",
    "92721": "[quote=felixlaumon;92654]\r\n\r\nAre the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nHere's what I have for md5sum: \r\n\r\na3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip\r\n\r\n4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip\r\n\r\n0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip\r\n\r\n9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip\r\n\r\n510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip\r\n\r\ne7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip",
    "92723": "NxGTR,\r\nI would change the rules if I could, but our platform simply doesn't allow us to disband teams unless we wipe out everything, including submissions, and start a brand new competition. Submissions are linked to teams, so if you delete teams, old submissions have no where to go.\r\n\r\nWe did learn from this experience and hopefully we can avoid leakages all together in the future when designing competitions. Thank you for your suggestion. \r\n\r\nAgain, I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused.",
    "92980": "[quote=firefly2442;92721]\r\n\r\n[quote=felixlaumon;92654]\r\n\r\nAre the md5sum for the zip files available? Thanks!\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nHere's what I have for md5sum: \r\n\r\na3489c37f7e72811aea0680b69da661c  0.zip\r\n\r\n4a16ada645d78ac54199d4eb5d5581cf  1.zip\r\n\r\n0a6999e4bc04875072d45a45abb74219  2.zip\r\n\r\n9499f4910e8243cc5d187c0d0b31d934  3.zip\r\n\r\n510ae70f61f6ca1ee336dbff147346b0  4.zip\r\n\r\ne7338ede09d35a22f3b5d8e3f96c78fb  5.zip\r\n\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nThank you!\r\n\r\nIt'll be great if Kaggle can post the md5sum in future competitions."
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