{
  "id": 42840,
  "title": "Has anyone tried to train a model from scratch?",
  "url": "/competitions/cdiscount-image-classification-challenge/discussion/42840",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2017-11-06T01:34:56.598242800Z",
  "votes": null,
  "comment_count": 7,
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  "content": "<p>Many teams seem to use pre-trained models, but I want to try a new model from scratch (random initialized weights). Because there is a lot of data, I think that training from scratch may also show a good performance, but I wonder about your opinion.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "240230",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 01:34:56",
      "content": "<p>Many teams seem to use pre-trained models, but I want to try a new model from scratch (random initialized weights). Because there is a lot of data, I think that training from scratch may also show a good performance, but I wonder about your opinion.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Many teams seem to use pre-trained models, but I want to try a new model from scratch (random initialized weights). Because there is a lot of data, I think that training from scratch may also show a good performance, but I wonder about your opinion.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "240255",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 03:46:13",
      "content": "<p>Perhaps the new model from scratch may be better than pre-trained model. but I think it takes a lot of time.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Perhaps the new model from scratch may be better than pre-trained model. but I think it takes a lot of time.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "240272",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 05:35:31",
      "content": "<p>i am training the model from scratch</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "i am training the model from scratch",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "240325",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 08:19:09",
      "content": "<p>Even with a model from scratch, I think 10~20 epochs would be enough to fit (it's just a guess, though)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Even with a model from scratch, I think 10~20 epochs would be enough to fit (it's just a guess, though)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "240326",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 08:23:20",
      "content": "<p>Great! Do you have any results?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Great! Do you have any results?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "240333",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 08:45:24",
      "content": "<p>10~20 epochs is not enough... i think 80 may be ok</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "10~20 epochs is not enough... i think 80 may be ok",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "240334",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 08:45:58",
      "content": "<p>not yet</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "not yet",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "240342",
      "postDate": "11/06/2017 09:18:04",
      "content": "<p>Thank you for your advice!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for your advice!",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 240255,
      "author_name": "mwbyeon",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/06/2017 03:46:13",
      "content": "<p>Perhaps the new model from scratch may be better than pre-trained model. but I think it takes a lot of time.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 240325,
          "author_name": "jhkim89",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/06/2017 08:19:09",
          "content": "<p>Even with a model from scratch, I think 10~20 epochs would be enough to fit (it's just a guess, though)</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 240333,
          "author_name": "ifighting",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/06/2017 08:45:24",
          "content": "<p>10~20 epochs is not enough... i think 80 may be ok</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 240342,
          "author_name": "jhkim89",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/06/2017 09:18:04",
          "content": "<p>Thank you for your advice!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 240272,
      "author_name": "ifighting",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/06/2017 05:35:31",
      "content": "<p>i am training the model from scratch</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 240326,
          "author_name": "jhkim89",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/06/2017 08:23:20",
          "content": "<p>Great! Do you have any results?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 240334,
          "author_name": "ifighting",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/06/2017 08:45:58",
          "content": "<p>not yet</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
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    "240230": "Many teams seem to use pre-trained models, but I want to try a new model from scratch (random initialized weights). Because there is a lot of data, I think that training from scratch may also show a good performance, but I wonder about your opinion.",
    "240255": "Perhaps the new model from scratch may be better than pre-trained model. but I think it takes a lot of time.",
    "240272": "i am training the model from scratch",
    "240325": "Even with a model from scratch, I think 10~20 epochs would be enough to fit (it's just a guess, though)",
    "240326": "Great! Do you have any results?",
    "240333": "10~20 epochs is not enough... i think 80 may be ok",
    "240334": "not yet",
    "240342": "Thank you for your advice!"
  },
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