{
  "id": 579247,
  "title": "What is the key point to reach 0.8?",
  "url": "/competitions/byu-locating-bacterial-flagellar-motors-2025/discussion/579247",
  "author_name": "Seeing Times",
  "post_date": "2025-05-16T07:20:10.401000",
  "votes": 6,
  "comment_count": 35,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I'm currently using a YOLO model and have achieved an LB score of 0.776 without external data, TTA, or heavy data augmentation. What can I do to improve my score to 0.8 or higher? Any recommendations?</p>",
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      "id": 3202990,
      "postDate": "2025-05-16T07:20:10.400Z",
      "content": "<p>I'm currently using a YOLO model and have achieved an LB score of 0.776 without external data, TTA, or heavy data augmentation. What can I do to improve my score to 0.8 or higher? Any recommendations?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm currently using a YOLO model and have achieved an LB score of 0.776 without external data, TTA, or heavy data augmentation. What can I do to improve my score to 0.8 or higher? Any recommendations?",
      "votes": 5
    },
    {
      "id": 3207703,
      "postDate": "2025-05-23T06:38:42.227Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for discussions, give me some hints.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for discussions, give me some hints.",
      "votes": 1
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    {
      "id": 3203860,
      "postDate": "2025-05-17T12:00:32.897Z",
      "content": "<p>I got 75.5 using YOLO11, but with some post-processing technique I I wa it up to around 80. If anyone has a single model, doesn't have to be yolo, that performs well and wants to team up, let me know. We might be able to improve it by a couple of points. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I got 75.5 using YOLO11, but with some post-processing technique I I wa it up to around 80. If anyone has a single model, doesn't have to be yolo, that performs well and wants to team up, let me know. We might be able to improve it by a couple of points. ",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203892,
          "postDate": "2025-05-17T12:41:48.523Z",
          "content": "<p>I got a 2d convnext model with 0.73 score😂</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I got a 2d convnext model with 0.73 score😂"
        },
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          "id": 3204755,
          "postDate": "2025-05-18T18:28:35.490Z",
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          "id": 3204759,
          "postDate": "2025-05-18T18:34:42.693Z",
          "content": "<p>If your ok to try out 2d+3d / 2.5 d / Equivariant (I have tried this before its amazing considering the ''domain shift'' )approaches , then we can distribute our work and experiment …..</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "If your ok to try out 2d+3d / 2.5 d / Equivariant (I have tried this before its amazing considering the ''domain shift'' )approaches , then we can distribute our work and experiment .....",
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        },
        {
          "id": 3206217,
          "postDate": "2025-05-21T03:31:14.653Z",
          "content": "<p>Hi, do you have strong strategy in post-processing? We have decent single model without pp, would you like to share more? Are you still looking for teammate? Let's see if we can team up.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Hi, do you have strong strategy in post-processing? We have decent single model without pp, would you like to share more? Are you still looking for teammate? Let's see if we can team up.",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3206701,
              "postDate": "2025-05-21T17:03:32.693Z",
              "content": "<p>I dont think I'll consider it strong , its just basic observation , but my next plan for post processing is whole lot different , training a new model </p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I dont think I'll consider it strong , its just basic observation , but my next plan for post processing is whole lot different , training a new model ",
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      "id": 3203855,
      "postDate": "2025-05-17T11:54:24.293Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/seeingtimes\" target=\"_blank\">@seeingtimes</a> Basically, changing yolo8 to yolo11 can easily get 0.8. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@seeingtimes Basically, changing yolo8 to yolo11 can easily get 0.8. ",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203857,
          "postDate": "2025-05-17T11:56:18.137Z",
          "content": "<p>Yolo 11 L？</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Yolo 11 L？",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3203861,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T12:03:19.017Z",
              "content": "<p>yolo11s is enough</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "yolo11s is enough"
            },
            {
              "id": 3203862,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T12:03:49.760Z",
              "content": "<p>thx, I gonna try now</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "thx, I gonna try now"
            },
            {
              "id": 3204246,
              "postDate": "2025-05-18T02:55:57.587Z",
              "content": "<p>got 0.047 with yolo11s (same setting as yolov8)😶‍🌫️</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "got 0.047 with yolo11s (same setting as yolov8)😶‍🌫️"
            }
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    {
      "id": 3203126,
      "postDate": "2025-05-16T10:32:05.707Z",
      "content": "<p>By using mhaf-yolo model mentioned in the public notebook and adjusting the threshold, I can get 0.803</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "By using mhaf-yolo model mentioned in the public notebook and adjusting the threshold, I can get 0.803",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203164,
          "postDate": "2025-05-16T11:26:16.110Z",
          "content": "<p>I'm using YOLOv8, as mentioned in the discussion, but I just can't reach 0.8. There must be something I haven't done yet.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I'm using YOLOv8, as mentioned in the discussion, but I just can't reach 0.8. There must be something I haven't done yet."
        },
        {
          "id": 3203587,
          "postDate": "2025-05-17T01:15:35.273Z",
          "content": "<p>did u just used the weights , or trained at your end ??</p>\n<p>How did your guys parse data look like ??</p>\n<p>Did you just used the starter version or edited it??</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "did u just used the weights , or trained at your end ??\n\nHow did your guys parse data look like ??\n\nDid you just used the starter version or edited it??",
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            {
              "id": 3203590,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T01:27:07.880Z",
              "content": "<p>Yes, I used public process code with tomo &gt; 0, and I wrote my own train code(just for easily modify hyper parameters)</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Yes, I used public process code with tomo > 0, and I wrote my own train code(just for easily modify hyper parameters)"
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              "id": 3204751,
              "postDate": "2025-05-18T18:26:43.380Z",
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              "id": 3204758,
              "postDate": "2025-05-18T18:32:38.340Z",
              "content": "<p>That has some errors , (it labels only one motor per slice (even with multiple ones ) atleast in the last version I checked , hengck pointed it out in the comments ,</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "That has some errors , (it labels only one motor per slice (even with multiple ones ) atleast in the last version I checked , hengck pointed it out in the comments ,",
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        {
          "id": 3204915,
          "postDate": "2025-05-19T03:41:10.577Z",
          "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/i2nfinit3y\" target=\"_blank\">@i2nfinit3y</a> ,  I’m also trying to determine the optimal confidence threshold. Could you let me know whether you lowered the threshold to achieve the 0.803 score?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Hi @i2nfinit3y ,  I’m also trying to determine the optimal confidence threshold. Could you let me know whether you lowered the threshold to achieve the 0.803 score?",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3205068,
              "postDate": "2025-05-19T09:08:30.873Z",
              "content": "<p>No, I raise the threshold.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "No, I raise the threshold.",
              "votes": 1
            },
            {
              "id": 3207056,
              "postDate": "2025-05-22T06:53:56.217Z",
              "content": "<p>What is your image size for YOLO model?</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "What is your image size for YOLO model?"
            }
          ]
        }
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    },
    {
      "id": 3203085,
      "postDate": "2025-05-16T09:45:17.543Z",
      "content": "<p>I'm also curious. I used SAHI and barely reached 0.8~</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm also curious. I used SAHI and barely reached 0.8~",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203101,
          "postDate": "2025-05-16T10:03:13.380Z",
          "content": "<p>thx, I gonna try SAHI later😀</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "thx, I gonna try SAHI later😀"
        },
        {
          "id": 3203106,
          "postDate": "2025-05-16T10:09:07.967Z",
          "content": "<p>how did you train your model ?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "how did you train your model ?",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3203188,
              "postDate": "2025-05-16T12:05:57.697Z",
              "content": "<p>Just use normal augmentation, my single model without SAHI is also around 0.77.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Just use normal augmentation, my single model without SAHI is also around 0.77."
            },
            {
              "id": 3203195,
              "postDate": "2025-05-16T12:12:28.493Z",
              "content": "<p>Could you post your prediction on three dummy data?</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Could you post your prediction on three dummy data?"
            },
            {
              "id": 3203208,
              "postDate": "2025-05-16T12:35:06.450Z",
              "content": "<p>maybe the data sahi is giving to the model is not the data the model has been trained with <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/heelerdeer\" target=\"_blank\">@heelerdeer</a> </p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "maybe the data sahi is giving to the model is not the data the model has been trained with @heelerdeer "
            },
            {
              "id": 3203586,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T01:11:46.407Z",
              "content": "<p>could you tell me how did your parse data notebook look like - did u corrected anything or just used that starter version.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "could you tell me how did your parse data notebook look like - did u corrected anything or just used that starter version.",
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            },
            {
              "id": 3203591,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T01:30:31.137Z",
              "content": "<p>just the stater version for prepare data</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "just the stater version for prepare data"
            },
            {
              "id": 3203603,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T01:57:54.643Z",
              "content": "<p>I think I need to try more epochs (20-30 aint enough) what about you what are your epochs??</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I think I need to try more epochs (20-30 aint enough) what about you what are your epochs??",
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            {
              "id": 3203611,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T02:25:36.540Z",
              "content": "<p>50epochs，but the best pt file is always around 30</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "50epochs，but the best pt file is always around 30"
            },
            {
              "id": 3203661,
              "postDate": "2025-05-17T05:37:16.753Z",
              "content": "<p>hmm <br>\nand lr? <br>\nany scheduler??</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "hmm \nand lr? \nany scheduler??",
              "isDeleted": true
            },
            {
              "id": 3206917,
              "postDate": "2025-05-22T00:00:48.107Z",
              "content": "<p>le-4 with  adamw what is yours？</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "le-4 with  adamw what is yours？"
            },
            {
              "id": 3207603,
              "postDate": "2025-05-23T03:03:37.727Z",
              "content": "<p>My current LB is based on public weights of MHAF with post proc</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "My current LB is based on public weights of MHAF with post proc",
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        },
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          "id": 3203592,
          "postDate": "2025-05-17T01:30:57.173Z",
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      "id": 3207703,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-05-23T06:38:42.227000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for discussions, give me some hints.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3203860,
      "author_name": "GoMBap",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-05-17T12:00:32.897000",
      "content": "<p>I got 75.5 using YOLO11, but with some post-processing technique I I wa it up to around 80. If anyone has a single model, doesn't have to be yolo, that performs well and wants to team up, let me know. We might be able to improve it by a couple of points. </p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203892,
          "author_name": "Seeing Times",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-17T12:41:48.523000",
          "content": "<p>I got a 2d convnext model with 0.73 score😂</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 3204755,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-18T18:28:35.490000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": 0,
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        },
        {
          "id": 3204759,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-18T18:34:42.693000",
          "content": "<p>If your ok to try out 2d+3d / 2.5 d / Equivariant (I have tried this before its amazing considering the ''domain shift'' )approaches , then we can distribute our work and experiment …..</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
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        {
          "id": 3206217,
          "author_name": "shanzhong8",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-21T03:31:14.653000",
          "content": "<p>Hi, do you have strong strategy in post-processing? We have decent single model without pp, would you like to share more? Are you still looking for teammate? Let's see if we can team up.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3206701,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-21T17:03:32.693000",
              "content": "<p>I dont think I'll consider it strong , its just basic observation , but my next plan for post processing is whole lot different , training a new model </p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
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    {
      "id": 3203855,
      "author_name": "Tom",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-05-17T11:54:24.293000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/seeingtimes\" target=\"_blank\">@seeingtimes</a> Basically, changing yolo8 to yolo11 can easily get 0.8. </p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203857,
          "author_name": "Seeing Times",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-17T11:56:18.137000",
          "content": "<p>Yolo 11 L？</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3203861,
              "author_name": "Tom",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T12:03:19.017000",
              "content": "<p>yolo11s is enough</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203862,
              "author_name": "Seeing Times",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T12:03:49.760000",
              "content": "<p>thx, I gonna try now</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3204246,
              "author_name": "Seeing Times",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-18T02:55:57.587000",
              "content": "<p>got 0.047 with yolo11s (same setting as yolov8)😶‍🌫️</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
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    },
    {
      "id": 3203126,
      "author_name": "I2nfinit3y",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-05-16T10:32:05.707000",
      "content": "<p>By using mhaf-yolo model mentioned in the public notebook and adjusting the threshold, I can get 0.803</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203164,
          "author_name": "Seeing Times",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-16T11:26:16.110000",
          "content": "<p>I'm using YOLOv8, as mentioned in the discussion, but I just can't reach 0.8. There must be something I haven't done yet.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 3203587,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-17T01:15:35.273000",
          "content": "<p>did u just used the weights , or trained at your end ??</p>\n<p>How did your guys parse data look like ??</p>\n<p>Did you just used the starter version or edited it??</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3203590,
              "author_name": "Seeing Times",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T01:27:07.880000",
              "content": "<p>Yes, I used public process code with tomo &gt; 0, and I wrote my own train code(just for easily modify hyper parameters)</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3204751,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-18T18:26:43.380000",
              "content": "",
              "votes": 0,
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            },
            {
              "id": 3204758,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-18T18:32:38.340000",
              "content": "<p>That has some errors , (it labels only one motor per slice (even with multiple ones ) atleast in the last version I checked , hengck pointed it out in the comments ,</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
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        },
        {
          "id": 3204915,
          "author_name": "Gao Xin",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-19T03:41:10.577000",
          "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/i2nfinit3y\" target=\"_blank\">@i2nfinit3y</a> ,  I’m also trying to determine the optimal confidence threshold. Could you let me know whether you lowered the threshold to achieve the 0.803 score?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3205068,
              "author_name": "I2nfinit3y",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-19T09:08:30.873000",
              "content": "<p>No, I raise the threshold.</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3207056,
              "author_name": "Rustam Bazarbayev",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-22T06:53:56.217000",
              "content": "<p>What is your image size for YOLO model?</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3203085,
      "author_name": "Heeler-Deer",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2025-05-16T09:45:17.543000",
      "content": "<p>I'm also curious. I used SAHI and barely reached 0.8~</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3203101,
          "author_name": "Seeing Times",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-16T10:03:13.380000",
          "content": "<p>thx, I gonna try SAHI later😀</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 3203106,
          "author_name": "Victor",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-16T10:09:07.967000",
          "content": "<p>how did you train your model ?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 3203188,
              "author_name": "Heeler-Deer",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-16T12:05:57.697000",
              "content": "<p>Just use normal augmentation, my single model without SAHI is also around 0.77.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203195,
              "author_name": "Seeing Times",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-16T12:12:28.493000",
              "content": "<p>Could you post your prediction on three dummy data?</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203208,
              "author_name": "Victor",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-16T12:35:06.450000",
              "content": "<p>maybe the data sahi is giving to the model is not the data the model has been trained with <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/heelerdeer\" target=\"_blank\">@heelerdeer</a> </p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203586,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T01:11:46.407000",
              "content": "<p>could you tell me how did your parse data notebook look like - did u corrected anything or just used that starter version.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203591,
              "author_name": "Seeing Times",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T01:30:31.137000",
              "content": "<p>just the stater version for prepare data</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203603,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T01:57:54.643000",
              "content": "<p>I think I need to try more epochs (20-30 aint enough) what about you what are your epochs??</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203611,
              "author_name": "Seeing Times",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T02:25:36.540000",
              "content": "<p>50epochs，but the best pt file is always around 30</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3203661,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-17T05:37:16.753000",
              "content": "<p>hmm <br>\nand lr? <br>\nany scheduler??</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3206917,
              "author_name": "Seeing Times",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-22T00:00:48.107000",
              "content": "<p>le-4 with  adamw what is yours？</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 3207603,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2025-05-23T03:03:37.727000",
              "content": "<p>My current LB is based on public weights of MHAF with post proc</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 3203592,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2025-05-17T01:30:57.173000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "3202990": "I'm currently using a YOLO model and have achieved an LB score of 0.776 without external data, TTA, or heavy data augmentation. What can I do to improve my score to 0.8 or higher? Any recommendations?",
    "3207703": "Thanks for discussions, give me some hints.",
    "3203860": "I got 75.5 using YOLO11, but with some post-processing technique I I wa it up to around 80. If anyone has a single model, doesn't have to be yolo, that performs well and wants to team up, let me know. We might be able to improve it by a couple of points. ",
    "3203855": "@seeingtimes Basically, changing yolo8 to yolo11 can easily get 0.8. ",
    "3203126": "By using mhaf-yolo model mentioned in the public notebook and adjusting the threshold, I can get 0.803",
    "3203085": "I'm also curious. I used SAHI and barely reached 0.8~"
  }
}