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  "id": 510838,
  "title": "Mimicking birds!",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2024/discussion/510838",
  "author_name": "Warrior",
  "post_date": "2024-06-08T02:54:27.552000",
  "votes": 12,
  "comment_count": 5,
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  "content": "<p>I joined the competition late and it was a lot of pressure so far. Although I love BirdCLEF competitions, this one was disappointing, especially when I searched and found that there are numerous mimicry birds that ruin the accuracy of models. I found a potential solution to deal with them, but no time remained. I give up. Good Luck!</p>\n<p>FYI, to my knowledge, these are the mimicking birds:<br>\n'Acridotheres tristis', 'Acridotheres fuscus', 'Gracula indica', 'Eudynamys scolopaceus', 'Dicrurus leucophaeus', 'Dicrurus macrocercus', 'Dicrurus aeneus', 'Dicrurus paradiseus', 'Dendrocitta vagabunda', 'Sturnia pagodarum', 'Pastor roseus', 'Corvus splendens', 'Corvus macrorhynchos'.</p>",
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      "id": 2861075,
      "postDate": "2024-06-08T02:54:27.553Z",
      "content": "<p>I joined the competition late and it was a lot of pressure so far. Although I love BirdCLEF competitions, this one was disappointing, especially when I searched and found that there are numerous mimicry birds that ruin the accuracy of models. I found a potential solution to deal with them, but no time remained. I give up. Good Luck!</p>\n<p>FYI, to my knowledge, these are the mimicking birds:<br>\n'Acridotheres tristis', 'Acridotheres fuscus', 'Gracula indica', 'Eudynamys scolopaceus', 'Dicrurus leucophaeus', 'Dicrurus macrocercus', 'Dicrurus aeneus', 'Dicrurus paradiseus', 'Dendrocitta vagabunda', 'Sturnia pagodarum', 'Pastor roseus', 'Corvus splendens', 'Corvus macrorhynchos'.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I joined the competition late and it was a lot of pressure so far. Although I love BirdCLEF competitions, this one was disappointing, especially when I searched and found that there are numerous mimicry birds that ruin the accuracy of models. I found a potential solution to deal with them, but no time remained. I give up. Good Luck!\n\nFYI, to my knowledge, these are the mimicking birds:\n'Acridotheres tristis', 'Acridotheres fuscus', 'Gracula indica', 'Eudynamys scolopaceus', 'Dicrurus leucophaeus', 'Dicrurus macrocercus', 'Dicrurus aeneus', 'Dicrurus paradiseus', 'Dendrocitta vagabunda', 'Sturnia pagodarum', 'Pastor roseus', 'Corvus splendens', 'Corvus macrorhynchos'.",
      "votes": 12
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    {
      "id": 2863053,
      "postDate": "2024-06-09T07:46:12.830Z",
      "content": "<p>Nice finding about mimicking birds. Maybe it explains why soundscape data is hard to label.</p>\n<p>But why is this making the competition disappointing? It makes it more interesting IMHO. I wish I had known about this before. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Nice finding about mimicking birds. Maybe it explains why soundscape data is hard to label.\n\nBut why is this making the competition disappointing? It makes it more interesting IMHO. I wish I had known about this before. ",
      "votes": 8,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2863958,
          "postDate": "2024-06-09T19:54:03.620Z",
          "content": "<p>Thank you! I agree, the mimicry birds do add an interesting challenge and are likely one of the reasons for the difficulty in labeling. I was disappointed not just because of the mimicry birds, but mostly because things didn't work out at all as I expected during the period of my participation.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thank you! I agree, the mimicry birds do add an interesting challenge and are likely one of the reasons for the difficulty in labeling. I was disappointed not just because of the mimicry birds, but mostly because things didn't work out at all as I expected during the period of my participation.",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2864121,
              "postDate": "2024-06-10T00:00:32.300Z",
              "content": "<p>You will know what worked and what did not work only after the competition end. It is too early to draw conclusions.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "You will know what worked and what did not work only after the competition end. It is too early to draw conclusions.",
              "votes": 2
            },
            {
              "id": 2864942,
              "postDate": "2024-06-10T12:41:56.617Z",
              "content": "<p>I agree that I can't draw a definitive conclusion. However, if I were on the right path, I would expect to achieve a better score above 0.63. I wish I had more knowledge and experience like you.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I agree that I can't draw a definitive conclusion. However, if I were on the right path, I would expect to achieve a better score above 0.63. I wish I had more knowledge and experience like you."
            }
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      "id": 2863131,
      "postDate": "2024-06-09T08:36:30.553Z",
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      "id": 2863053,
      "author_name": "CPMP",
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      "post_date": "2024-06-09T07:46:12.830000",
      "content": "<p>Nice finding about mimicking birds. Maybe it explains why soundscape data is hard to label.</p>\n<p>But why is this making the competition disappointing? It makes it more interesting IMHO. I wish I had known about this before. </p>",
      "votes": 8,
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          "id": 2863958,
          "author_name": "Warrior",
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          "post_date": "2024-06-09T19:54:03.620000",
          "content": "<p>Thank you! I agree, the mimicry birds do add an interesting challenge and are likely one of the reasons for the difficulty in labeling. I was disappointed not just because of the mimicry birds, but mostly because things didn't work out at all as I expected during the period of my participation.</p>",
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              "id": 2864121,
              "author_name": "CPMP",
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              "post_date": "2024-06-10T00:00:32.300000",
              "content": "<p>You will know what worked and what did not work only after the competition end. It is too early to draw conclusions.</p>",
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              "id": 2864942,
              "author_name": "Warrior",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-10T12:41:56.617000",
              "content": "<p>I agree that I can't draw a definitive conclusion. However, if I were on the right path, I would expect to achieve a better score above 0.63. I wish I had more knowledge and experience like you.</p>",
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      "post_date": "2024-06-09T08:36:30.553000",
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    "2861075": "I joined the competition late and it was a lot of pressure so far. Although I love BirdCLEF competitions, this one was disappointing, especially when I searched and found that there are numerous mimicry birds that ruin the accuracy of models. I found a potential solution to deal with them, but no time remained. I give up. Good Luck!\n\nFYI, to my knowledge, these are the mimicking birds:\n'Acridotheres tristis', 'Acridotheres fuscus', 'Gracula indica', 'Eudynamys scolopaceus', 'Dicrurus leucophaeus', 'Dicrurus macrocercus', 'Dicrurus aeneus', 'Dicrurus paradiseus', 'Dendrocitta vagabunda', 'Sturnia pagodarum', 'Pastor roseus', 'Corvus splendens', 'Corvus macrorhynchos'.",
    "2863053": "Nice finding about mimicking birds. Maybe it explains why soundscape data is hard to label.\n\nBut why is this making the competition disappointing? It makes it more interesting IMHO. I wish I had known about this before. ",
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