{
  "id": 506449,
  "title": "Can we use data from ebird.org? [Solved]",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2024/discussion/506449",
  "author_name": "Salman Ahmed",
  "post_date": "2024-05-21T23:35:14.498000",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 7,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Pretty much the title.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2828625,
      "postDate": "2024-05-22T07:29:16.880Z",
      "content": "<p>The eBird bar charts appear to be openly accessible - so I think it's fine to use these. If you do, please make sure to disclose the source. In terms of Macaulay Library recordings (some of them are also hosted on eBird), these data cannot be considered public due to their weird licenses.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The eBird bar charts appear to be openly accessible - so I think it's fine to use these. If you do, please make sure to disclose the source. In terms of Macaulay Library recordings (some of them are also hosted on eBird), these data cannot be considered public due to their weird licenses.",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2828744,
          "postDate": "2024-05-22T08:44:32.593Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> <br>\nThanks for your reply! Could you give us a little bit more explaination about the ebird bar charts?</p>\n<p>I actually asked the same question last year. The answer was ebird==macaulay and No.<br>\nMy understanding is that registration is required to download audios from ebird or macaulay, and thus not public.<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023</a></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@stefankahl \nThanks for your reply! Could you give us a little bit more explaination about the ebird bar charts?\n\nI actually asked the same question last year. The answer was ebird==macaulay and No.\nMy understanding is that registration is required to download audios from ebird or macaulay, and thus not public.\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2828914,
              "postDate": "2024-05-22T10:13:29.540Z",
              "content": "<p>I also asked about macaulay in a older comp and the answer was also no.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I also asked about macaulay in a older comp and the answer was also no.",
              "votes": 1
            },
            {
              "id": 2829543,
              "postDate": "2024-05-22T16:26:03.363Z",
              "content": "<p>Media (sound, image, video) from Macaulay is all a 'no', as the licensing problems persist.</p>\n<p>The 'Weekly Bar Chart' for each species in ebird.org gives some frequency information, derived from ebird observation lists. Here's an example for American Robin in the US:<br>\n<a href=\"https://ebird.org/species/amerob/US\" target=\"_blank\">https://ebird.org/species/amerob/US</a></p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Media (sound, image, video) from Macaulay is all a 'no', as the licensing problems persist.\n\nThe 'Weekly Bar Chart' for each species in ebird.org gives some frequency information, derived from ebird observation lists. Here's an example for American Robin in the US:\nhttps://ebird.org/species/amerob/US",
              "votes": 2
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2829509,
          "postDate": "2024-05-22T15:56:15.730Z",
          "content": "<p>Thank you. But I meant downloading public images / videos recordings for the scored bird. (We can skip sounds recordings if these are not public.)</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thank you. But I meant downloading public images / videos recordings for the scored bird. (We can skip sounds recordings if these are not public.)",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2829539,
              "postDate": "2024-05-22T16:23:45.217Z",
              "content": "<p>All of the Macaulay library media assets are subject to the 'weird licenses' problem - images, videos, and sound.</p>\n<p>eBird also collects hobbyist lists of bird sightings, which are republished to GBIF. These lists are summarized into species distribution maps, for example, which might be more usable, and are probably what Stefan was referring to.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "All of the Macaulay library media assets are subject to the 'weird licenses' problem - images, videos, and sound.\n\neBird also collects hobbyist lists of bird sightings, which are republished to GBIF. These lists are summarized into species distribution maps, for example, which might be more usable, and are probably what Stefan was referring to.",
              "votes": 4
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2828200,
      "postDate": "2024-05-21T23:35:14.497Z",
      "content": "<p>Pretty much the title.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Pretty much the title.\n",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 2828426,
      "postDate": "2024-05-22T05:15:40.183Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "votes": -1,
      "isDeleted": true
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2828625,
      "author_name": "Stefan Kahl",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-05-22T07:29:16.880000",
      "content": "<p>The eBird bar charts appear to be openly accessible - so I think it's fine to use these. If you do, please make sure to disclose the source. In terms of Macaulay Library recordings (some of them are also hosted on eBird), these data cannot be considered public due to their weird licenses.</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2828744,
          "author_name": "RihanPiggy",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-05-22T08:44:32.593000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> <br>\nThanks for your reply! Could you give us a little bit more explaination about the ebird bar charts?</p>\n<p>I actually asked the same question last year. The answer was ebird==macaulay and No.<br>\nMy understanding is that registration is required to download audios from ebird or macaulay, and thus not public.<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023</a></p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2828914,
              "author_name": "CPMP",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-05-22T10:13:29.540000",
              "content": "<p>I also asked about macaulay in a older comp and the answer was also no.</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2829543,
              "author_name": "Tom Denton",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-05-22T16:26:03.363000",
              "content": "<p>Media (sound, image, video) from Macaulay is all a 'no', as the licensing problems persist.</p>\n<p>The 'Weekly Bar Chart' for each species in ebird.org gives some frequency information, derived from ebird observation lists. Here's an example for American Robin in the US:<br>\n<a href=\"https://ebird.org/species/amerob/US\" target=\"_blank\">https://ebird.org/species/amerob/US</a></p>",
              "votes": 2,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2829509,
          "author_name": "Salman Ahmed",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-05-22T15:56:15.730000",
          "content": "<p>Thank you. But I meant downloading public images / videos recordings for the scored bird. (We can skip sounds recordings if these are not public.)</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2829539,
              "author_name": "Tom Denton",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-05-22T16:23:45.217000",
              "content": "<p>All of the Macaulay library media assets are subject to the 'weird licenses' problem - images, videos, and sound.</p>\n<p>eBird also collects hobbyist lists of bird sightings, which are republished to GBIF. These lists are summarized into species distribution maps, for example, which might be more usable, and are probably what Stefan was referring to.</p>",
              "votes": 4,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2828426,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-05-22T05:15:40.183000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": -1,
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    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "2828625": "The eBird bar charts appear to be openly accessible - so I think it's fine to use these. If you do, please make sure to disclose the source. In terms of Macaulay Library recordings (some of them are also hosted on eBird), these data cannot be considered public due to their weird licenses.",
    "2828200": "Pretty much the title.\n",
    "2828426": ""
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}