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  "id": 500566,
  "title": "Is there any other way, than using Mel spectrogram.",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2024/discussion/500566",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-05-06T06:29:10.777131700Z",
  "votes": 1,
  "comment_count": 3,
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  "content": "<p>well, my first instinct is to take Mel spectrogram of the 5 sec audio and run the image classification on the spectrogram. is this a good approach? any suggestions, I am just getting started.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "2796176",
      "postDate": "05/06/2024 06:29:10",
      "content": "<p>well, my first instinct is to take Mel spectrogram of the 5 sec audio and run the image classification on the spectrogram. is this a good approach? any suggestions, I am just getting started.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "well, my first instinct is to take Mel spectrogram of the 5 sec audio and run the image classification on the spectrogram. is this a good approach? any suggestions, I am just getting started.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "2796469",
      "postDate": "05/06/2024 08:41:25",
      "content": "<p>Yes, previous top solutions have a similar pipeline, audio -&gt; mel spectrogram -&gt; multi-labels image classification. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes, previous top solutions have a similar pipeline, audio -> mel spectrogram -> multi-labels image classification.",
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    {
      "id": "2796519",
      "postDate": "05/06/2024 09:28:16",
      "content": "<p>Mel spectrogram has been used a lot in previous birdsong competitions.</p>\n<p>If you want to try other methods then you can find various ways to transform waveforms into 2D images in the HMS solutions: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/leaderboard\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/leaderboard</a></p>\n<p>People also used 1D models there.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Mel spectrogram has been used a lot in previous birdsong competitions.\n\nIf you want to try other methods then you can find various ways to transform waveforms into 2D images in the HMS solutions: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/leaderboard\n\nPeople also used 1D models there.",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "2797817",
      "postDate": "05/07/2024 00:48:30",
      "content": "<p>Mel spectrograms seem to be the dominant approach in this competition historically. The mel scale is approximately logarithmic, and in general I'd expect spectrograms that use a log scale for frequency would work better than a linear scale, since we humans <a href=\"https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2013.00636.x\" target=\"_blank\">tend to sense logarithmically</a>, and birds probably do too.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Mel spectrograms seem to be the dominant approach in this competition historically. The mel scale is approximately logarithmic, and in general I'd expect spectrograms that use a log scale for frequency would work better than a linear scale, since we humans [tend to sense logarithmically](https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2013.00636.x), and birds probably do too.",
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    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2796469,
      "author_name": "zz1zzi",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/06/2024 08:41:25",
      "content": "<p>Yes, previous top solutions have a similar pipeline, audio -&gt; mel spectrogram -&gt; multi-labels image classification. </p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 2796519,
      "author_name": "cpmpml",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/06/2024 09:28:16",
      "content": "<p>Mel spectrogram has been used a lot in previous birdsong competitions.</p>\n<p>If you want to try other methods then you can find various ways to transform waveforms into 2D images in the HMS solutions: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/leaderboard\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/leaderboard</a></p>\n<p>People also used 1D models there.</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 2797817,
      "author_name": "robbynevels",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/07/2024 00:48:30",
      "content": "<p>Mel spectrograms seem to be the dominant approach in this competition historically. The mel scale is approximately logarithmic, and in general I'd expect spectrograms that use a log scale for frequency would work better than a linear scale, since we humans <a href=\"https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2013.00636.x\" target=\"_blank\">tend to sense logarithmically</a>, and birds probably do too.</p>",
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    "2796176": "well, my first instinct is to take Mel spectrogram of the 5 sec audio and run the image classification on the spectrogram. is this a good approach? any suggestions, I am just getting started.",
    "2796469": "Yes, previous top solutions have a similar pipeline, audio -> mel spectrogram -> multi-labels image classification.",
    "2796519": "Mel spectrogram has been used a lot in previous birdsong competitions.\n\nIf you want to try other methods then you can find various ways to transform waveforms into 2D images in the HMS solutions: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/hms-harmful-brain-activity-classification/leaderboard\n\nPeople also used 1D models there.",
    "2797817": "Mel spectrograms seem to be the dominant approach in this competition historically. The mel scale is approximately logarithmic, and in general I'd expect spectrograms that use a log scale for frequency would work better than a linear scale, since we humans [tend to sense logarithmically](https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1740-9713.2013.00636.x), and birds probably do too."
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