{ "id": 496571, "title": "[Resolved] Question about using BirdNET-Analyzer in the competition", "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2024/discussion/496571", "author_name": "Moyashii", "post_date": "2024-04-21T16:39:21.986000", "votes": 8, "comment_count": 11, "views": 0, "content": "

@sohier @maggiemd

\n

Hello,

\n

I have a question regarding the use of BirdNET-Analyzer in the competition. While reading the top solutions for BirdCLEF2023, I noticed that several participants used BirdNET-Analyzer. However, upon checking the license for BirdNET-Analyzer, I found it to be CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. According to the competition rules under \"8. SUBMISSION CODE REQUIREMENTS\" → \"C. Use of Open Source\", it seems that the use of open-source software with a non-commercial license is prohibited. Could you please clarify if this means that using BirdNET-Analyzer is indeed not permitted?

\n

Thank you for your help and for organizing this amazing competition!

", "messages": [ { "id": 2767219, "postDate": "2024-04-22T07:26:04.997Z", "content": "

I am the lead developer of the BirdNET-Analyzer and would love to see solutions that use our software. So, yes, go ahead and use it in your attempt to compete. However, be aware that BirdNET does not cover all species in this competition and you may have to be a little creative to actually take advantage of our pre-trained model.

", "rawMarkdown": "I am the lead developer of the BirdNET-Analyzer and would love to see solutions that use our software. So, yes, go ahead and use it in your attempt to compete. However, be aware that BirdNET does not cover all species in this competition and you may have to be a little creative to actually take advantage of our pre-trained model.", "votes": 8, "replies": [ { "id": 2767241, "postDate": "2024-04-22T07:42:06.863Z", "content": "

Hello,

\n

I'm relieved to hear that we can use BirdNET-Analyzer. Thank you for your quick response and helpful information! We'll consider using it in the competition.

\n

Thank you!

", "rawMarkdown": "Hello,\n\nI'm relieved to hear that we can use BirdNET-Analyzer. Thank you for your quick response and helpful information! We'll consider using it in the competition.\n\nThank you!" }, { "id": 2789631, "postDate": "2024-05-02T18:41:45.640Z", "content": "
\n

does not cover all species in this competition

\n
\n

A first look and it seems like 181 of 182 birds are in birdnet. But I might be wrong.

", "rawMarkdown": ">does not cover all species in this competition\n\nA first look and it seems like 181 of 182 birds are in birdnet. But I might be wrong.", "replies": [ { "id": 2792367, "postDate": "2024-05-04T07:25:07.947Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 2826627, "postDate": "2024-05-21T03:43:53.357Z", "content": "

may I ask how did you filter the specie names? when I match by scientific name I only get 173 classes that are present in both labels

", "rawMarkdown": "may I ask how did you filter the specie names? when I match by scientific name I only get 173 classes that are present in both labels" }, { "id": 2827026, "postDate": "2024-05-21T07:17:59.783Z", "content": "
birdz_ = []\ndata = pd.read_csv()\nbb = pd.read_csv()\n x  (data.scientific_name.unique() +  + data.common_name.unique()):\n     x  bb.values:\n        birdz_.append(x)\n(birdz_)\n\n
", "rawMarkdown": "```python\nbirdz_ = []\ndata = pd.read_csv(\"/kaggle/input/birdclef-2024/train_metadata.csv\")\nbb = pd.read_csv('/kaggle/input/birdnet2-4/BirdNET-Analyzer-main (1)/BirdNET-Analyzer-main/checkpoints/V2.4/BirdNET_GLOBAL_6K_V2.4_Labels.txt')\nfor x in (data.scientific_name.unique() + '_' + data.common_name.unique()):\n if x in bb.values:\n birdz_.append(x)\nlen(birdz_)\n181\n```" } ] } ] }, { "id": 2766340, "postDate": "2024-04-21T16:39:21.987Z", "content": "

@sohier @maggiemd

\n

Hello,

\n

I have a question regarding the use of BirdNET-Analyzer in the competition. While reading the top solutions for BirdCLEF2023, I noticed that several participants used BirdNET-Analyzer. However, upon checking the license for BirdNET-Analyzer, I found it to be CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. According to the competition rules under \"8. SUBMISSION CODE REQUIREMENTS\" → \"C. Use of Open Source\", it seems that the use of open-source software with a non-commercial license is prohibited. Could you please clarify if this means that using BirdNET-Analyzer is indeed not permitted?

\n

Thank you for your help and for organizing this amazing competition!

", "rawMarkdown": "@sohier @maggiemd \n\nHello,\n\nI have a question regarding the use of BirdNET-Analyzer in the competition. While reading the top solutions for BirdCLEF2023, I noticed that several participants used BirdNET-Analyzer. However, upon checking the license for BirdNET-Analyzer, I found it to be CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. According to the competition rules under \"8. SUBMISSION CODE REQUIREMENTS\" → \"C. Use of Open Source\", it seems that the use of open-source software with a non-commercial license is prohibited. Could you please clarify if this means that using BirdNET-Analyzer is indeed not permitted?\n\nThank you for your help and for organizing this amazing competition!", "votes": 8 }, { "id": 2776669, "postDate": "2024-04-26T09:18:03.753Z", "content": "

Thank you. By the way, has the performance of BirdNet on the 2024 dataset been tested?

", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you. By the way, has the performance of BirdNet on the 2024 dataset been tested?", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 2777032, "postDate": "2024-04-26T13:25:52.930Z", "content": "

My first sub :) 0.61 Birdnet V2.4

", "rawMarkdown": "My first sub :) 0.61 Birdnet V2.4", "votes": 8 } ] }, { "id": 2766889, "postDate": "2024-04-22T02:08:37.107Z", "content": "

The host has replied ok for last year :
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023

\n

and it has been used in 2022 winning solution:
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2022/discussion/326950

\n

No harm asking for confirmation for this year

", "rawMarkdown": "The host has replied ok for last year :\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023\n\nand it has been used in 2022 winning solution: \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2022/discussion/326950\n\nNo harm asking for confirmation for this year ", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 2767137, "postDate": "2024-04-22T06:07:09.360Z", "content": "

I skipped last year comp, hence did not see the host answer that year. It is good they answered.

", "rawMarkdown": "I skipped last year comp, hence did not see the host answer that year. It is good they answered.", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 2766573, "postDate": "2024-04-21T19:18:01.607Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true } ], "comments": [ { "id": 2767219, "author_name": "Stefan Kahl", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-04-22T07:26:04.997000", "content": "

I am the lead developer of the BirdNET-Analyzer and would love to see solutions that use our software. So, yes, go ahead and use it in your attempt to compete. However, be aware that BirdNET does not cover all species in this competition and you may have to be a little creative to actually take advantage of our pre-trained model.

", "votes": 8, "replies": [ { "id": 2767241, "author_name": "Moyashii", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-04-22T07:42:06.863000", "content": "

Hello,

\n

I'm relieved to hear that we can use BirdNET-Analyzer. Thank you for your quick response and helpful information! We'll consider using it in the competition.

\n

Thank you!

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2789631, "author_name": "Kirderf", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-02T18:41:45.640000", "content": "
\n

does not cover all species in this competition

\n
\n

A first look and it seems like 181 of 182 birds are in birdnet. But I might be wrong.

", "votes": 0, "replies": [ { "id": 2792367, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-04T07:25:07.947000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2826627, "author_name": "LLLEEEOOOH", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-21T03:43:53.357000", "content": "

may I ask how did you filter the specie names? when I match by scientific name I only get 173 classes that are present in both labels

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2827026, "author_name": "Kirderf", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-21T07:17:59.783000", "content": "
birdz_ = []\ndata = pd.read_csv()\nbb = pd.read_csv()\n x  (data.scientific_name.unique() +  + data.common_name.unique()):\n     x  bb.values:\n        birdz_.append(x)\n(birdz_)\n\n
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] } ] }, { "id": 2776669, "author_name": "lhwcv", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-04-26T09:18:03.753000", "content": "

Thank you. By the way, has the performance of BirdNet on the 2024 dataset been tested?

", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 2777032, "author_name": "Harshit Sheoran", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-04-26T13:25:52.930000", "content": "

My first sub :) 0.61 Birdnet V2.4

", "votes": 8, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 2766889, "author_name": "yukiya", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-04-22T02:08:37.107000", "content": "

The host has replied ok for last year :
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023

\n

and it has been used in 2022 winning solution:
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2022/discussion/326950

\n

No harm asking for confirmation for this year

", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 2767137, "author_name": "CPMP", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-04-22T06:07:09.360000", "content": "

I skipped last year comp, hence did not see the host answer that year. It is good they answered.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 2766573, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-04-21T19:18:01.607000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "2767219": "I am the lead developer of the BirdNET-Analyzer and would love to see solutions that use our software. So, yes, go ahead and use it in your attempt to compete. However, be aware that BirdNET does not cover all species in this competition and you may have to be a little creative to actually take advantage of our pre-trained model.", "2766340": "@sohier @maggiemd \n\nHello,\n\nI have a question regarding the use of BirdNET-Analyzer in the competition. While reading the top solutions for BirdCLEF2023, I noticed that several participants used BirdNET-Analyzer. However, upon checking the license for BirdNET-Analyzer, I found it to be CC BY-NC-SA 4.0. According to the competition rules under \"8. SUBMISSION CODE REQUIREMENTS\" → \"C. Use of Open Source\", it seems that the use of open-source software with a non-commercial license is prohibited. Could you please clarify if this means that using BirdNET-Analyzer is indeed not permitted?\n\nThank you for your help and for organizing this amazing competition!", "2776669": "Thank you. By the way, has the performance of BirdNet on the 2024 dataset been tested?", "2766889": "The host has replied ok for last year :\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/393023\n\nand it has been used in 2022 winning solution: \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/birdclef-2022/discussion/326950\n\nNo harm asking for confirmation for this year ", "2766573": "" } }