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  "title": "Relationship between number of elements in secondary_labels and rating",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2024/discussion/493605",
  "author_name": "nahyat",
  "post_date": "2024-04-14T05:29:58.355000",
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  "content": "<p>In <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/suzukisatsuki/birdclef-eda-spectrogram#4%EF%BC%8Erating%E3%81%AE%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%E3%81%A8secondary_labels%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AE%E9%96%A2%E4%BF%82%E6%80%A7%E3%82%92%E8%AA%BF%E6%9F%BB\" target=\"_blank\">my EDA Notebook</a>, I considered the secondary_labels element.<br>\nIt seems that secondary_labels has no elements at all if rating is a non-zero integer, while it has elements otherwise.</p>\n<p>What does this result mean?<br>\nI would appreciate it if you could share your thoughts.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F18809560%2Fd12982ac73e30f2fd7be635520cfa6e1%2F__results___23_0.png?generation=1713072577542305&amp;alt=media\"></p>",
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      "content": "<p>It means that the presence of secondary species is reflected in the rating. For example, a 5-rated recording that has secondary labels will only get a 4.5 rating to reflect the fact that it might not be a clean recording, ranking it slightly below a 5-rated recording with no secondary species. Hope that helps.</p>",
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      "postDate": "2024-04-14T05:29:58.357Z",
      "content": "<p>In <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/suzukisatsuki/birdclef-eda-spectrogram#4%EF%BC%8Erating%E3%81%AE%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%E3%81%A8secondary_labels%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AE%E9%96%A2%E4%BF%82%E6%80%A7%E3%82%92%E8%AA%BF%E6%9F%BB\" target=\"_blank\">my EDA Notebook</a>, I considered the secondary_labels element.<br>\nIt seems that secondary_labels has no elements at all if rating is a non-zero integer, while it has elements otherwise.</p>\n<p>What does this result mean?<br>\nI would appreciate it if you could share your thoughts.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F18809560%2Fd12982ac73e30f2fd7be635520cfa6e1%2F__results___23_0.png?generation=1713072577542305&amp;alt=media\"></p>",
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      "author_name": "Stefan Kahl",
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      "post_date": "2024-04-14T07:58:58.777000",
      "content": "<p>It means that the presence of secondary species is reflected in the rating. For example, a 5-rated recording that has secondary labels will only get a 4.5 rating to reflect the fact that it might not be a clean recording, ranking it slightly below a 5-rated recording with no secondary species. Hope that helps.</p>",
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    "2751411": "It means that the presence of secondary species is reflected in the rating. For example, a 5-rated recording that has secondary labels will only get a 4.5 rating to reflect the fact that it might not be a clean recording, ranking it slightly below a 5-rated recording with no secondary species. Hope that helps.",
    "2751219": "In [my EDA Notebook](https://www.kaggle.com/code/suzukisatsuki/birdclef-eda-spectrogram#4%EF%BC%8Erating%E3%81%AE%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90%E3%81%A8secondary_labels%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AE%E9%96%A2%E4%BF%82%E6%80%A7%E3%82%92%E8%AA%BF%E6%9F%BB), I considered the secondary_labels element.\nIt seems that secondary_labels has no elements at all if rating is a non-zero integer, while it has elements otherwise.\n\nWhat does this result mean?\nI would appreciate it if you could share your thoughts.\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F18809560%2Fd12982ac73e30f2fd7be635520cfa6e1%2F__results___23_0.png?generation=1713072577542305&alt=media)",
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