{
  "id": 491387,
  "title": "Correction to hidden test set submission format",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2024/discussion/491387",
  "author_name": "Sohier Dane",
  "post_date": "2024-04-05T17:13:03.840000",
  "votes": 21,
  "comment_count": 12,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>The original hidden test set sample submission retained last year's audio duration of ten minutes, which was causing quite a few submission errors. I'm updating the relevant files now for consistency with the four minute audio files used this year. The patch  is live.</p>\n<p>All submissions currently in flight will probably fail due to this update; don't worry about a problem in your code if you see errors for the next several hours.</p>\n<p>Sorry about the confusion and hassle, this one was entirely on me. </p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2737281,
      "postDate": "2024-04-05T17:13:03.840Z",
      "content": "<p>The original hidden test set sample submission retained last year's audio duration of ten minutes, which was causing quite a few submission errors. I'm updating the relevant files now for consistency with the four minute audio files used this year. The patch  is live.</p>\n<p>All submissions currently in flight will probably fail due to this update; don't worry about a problem in your code if you see errors for the next several hours.</p>\n<p>Sorry about the confusion and hassle, this one was entirely on me. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The original hidden test set sample submission retained last year's audio duration of ten minutes, which was causing quite a few submission errors. I'm updating the relevant files now for consistency with the four minute audio files used this year. The patch ~~is in flight and should complete within a few hours~~ is live.\n\nAll submissions currently in flight will probably fail due to this update; don't worry about a problem in your code if you see errors for the next several hours.\n\nSorry about the confusion and hassle, this one was entirely on me. \n",
      "votes": 21
    },
    {
      "id": 2738646,
      "postDate": "2024-04-06T13:16:44.393Z",
      "content": "<p>Why not put several dummy ogg files in the test folder with proper naming as most of competitions do? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Why not put several dummy ogg files in the test folder with proper naming as most of competitions do? ",
      "votes": 16
    },
    {
      "id": 2738227,
      "postDate": "2024-04-06T07:43:01.710Z",
      "content": "<p>Hello! Thanks for the update, but today I get a Notebook Threw Exception, almost from the start of the code execution, there is not even a library installed, yesterday the code ran for 40 minutes. Here is my notebook: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/aikhmelnytskyy/birdclef24-\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/aikhmelnytskyy/birdclef24-</a> pretraining-is-all-you-need-infer</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hello! Thanks for the update, but today I get a Notebook Threw Exception, almost from the start of the code execution, there is not even a library installed, yesterday the code ran for 40 minutes. Here is my notebook: https://www.kaggle.com/code/aikhmelnytskyy/birdclef24- pretraining-is-all-you-need-infer",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2738975,
          "postDate": "2024-04-06T18:27:02.883Z",
          "content": "<p>Sorry to bother you, I had a bug in the code)</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Sorry to bother you, I had a bug in the code)"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2749371,
      "postDate": "2024-04-13T02:49:06.230Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> <br>\nAs with the other competitions, we would like you to include 2~3 appropriate files.<br>\nThe test file name/format and the unclear subscript numbers in the row_id of the submmision clearly make the submission more difficult than in the regular competition. As a result, we have had a wildly divergent discussion limited solely to the submission method.<br>\nUsers who are participating at this time are probably familiar with this format, as they have participated in the past. However, as the number of participants increases in the future, this problem will become more significant.</p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@sohier \nAs with the other competitions, we would like you to include 2~3 appropriate files.\nThe test file name/format and the unclear subscript numbers in the row_id of the submmision clearly make the submission more difficult than in the regular competition. As a result, we have had a wildly divergent discussion limited solely to the submission method.\nUsers who are participating at this time are probably familiar with this format, as they have participated in the past. However, as the number of participants increases in the future, this problem will become more significant.\n\nThanks for reading.",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2751063,
          "postDate": "2024-04-14T02:28:14.153Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tc0000\" target=\"_blank\">@tc0000</a>  use unlabelled soundscapes for testing your script</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@tc0000  use unlabelled soundscapes for testing your script",
          "votes": -3,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2823609,
              "postDate": "2024-05-19T10:29:04.407Z",
              "content": "<p>Considering unlabelled soundscapes and hidden test literally have different naming formats, that's a really bad suggestion. </p>\n<p>That's why providing at least a single test sample is a good idea. </p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Considering unlabelled soundscapes and hidden test literally have different naming formats, that's a really bad suggestion. \n\nThat's why providing at least a single test sample is a good idea. "
            },
            {
              "id": 2823751,
              "postDate": "2024-05-19T12:02:26.917Z",
              "content": "<p>They have the same format, except few unlabelled ones that are shorter than 4 minutes.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "They have the same format, except few unlabelled ones that are shorter than 4 minutes."
            },
            {
              "id": 2823758,
              "postDate": "2024-05-19T12:05:28.750Z",
              "content": "<p>That's not what I meant. They have a different <strong>naming</strong> format. Unlabeled soundscapes have a format of <code>{soundscape_id}.ogg</code>, while test soundscapes have a format of <code>soundscape_{soundscape_id}.ogg</code></p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "That's not what I meant. They have a different **naming** format. Unlabeled soundscapes have a format of `{soundscape_id}.ogg`, while test soundscapes have a format of `soundscape_{soundscape_id}.ogg`\n\n"
            },
            {
              "id": 2823972,
              "postDate": "2024-05-19T14:07:05.390Z",
              "content": "<p>Right, my bad, I didn't read the \"naming\" word.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Right, my bad, I didn't read the \"naming\" word.",
              "votes": 1
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2738332,
      "postDate": "2024-04-06T09:25:00.543Z",
      "content": "<p>Is it solved or still ongoing ?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Is it solved or still ongoing ?",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2738359,
          "postDate": "2024-04-06T09:40:18.357Z",
          "content": "<p>It's already solved </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "It's already solved ",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2738254,
      "postDate": "2024-04-06T08:08:38.430Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "isDeleted": true
    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2738646,
      "author_name": "Anatolii Kashchuk",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-04-06T13:16:44.393000",
      "content": "<p>Why not put several dummy ogg files in the test folder with proper naming as most of competitions do? </p>",
      "votes": 16,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2738227,
      "author_name": "Andrij",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-04-06T07:43:01.710000",
      "content": "<p>Hello! Thanks for the update, but today I get a Notebook Threw Exception, almost from the start of the code execution, there is not even a library installed, yesterday the code ran for 40 minutes. Here is my notebook: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/aikhmelnytskyy/birdclef24-\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/aikhmelnytskyy/birdclef24-</a> pretraining-is-all-you-need-infer</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2738975,
          "author_name": "Andrij",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-04-06T18:27:02.883000",
          "content": "<p>Sorry to bother you, I had a bug in the code)</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2749371,
      "author_name": "tc0000",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-04-13T02:49:06.230000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> <br>\nAs with the other competitions, we would like you to include 2~3 appropriate files.<br>\nThe test file name/format and the unclear subscript numbers in the row_id of the submmision clearly make the submission more difficult than in the regular competition. As a result, we have had a wildly divergent discussion limited solely to the submission method.<br>\nUsers who are participating at this time are probably familiar with this format, as they have participated in the past. However, as the number of participants increases in the future, this problem will become more significant.</p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2751063,
          "author_name": "Arunodhayan",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-04-14T02:28:14.153000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tc0000\" target=\"_blank\">@tc0000</a>  use unlabelled soundscapes for testing your script</p>",
          "votes": -3,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2823609,
              "author_name": "Ivan Panshin",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-05-19T10:29:04.407000",
              "content": "<p>Considering unlabelled soundscapes and hidden test literally have different naming formats, that's a really bad suggestion. </p>\n<p>That's why providing at least a single test sample is a good idea. </p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2823751,
              "author_name": "CPMP",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-05-19T12:02:26.917000",
              "content": "<p>They have the same format, except few unlabelled ones that are shorter than 4 minutes.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2823758,
              "author_name": "Ivan Panshin",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-05-19T12:05:28.750000",
              "content": "<p>That's not what I meant. They have a different <strong>naming</strong> format. Unlabeled soundscapes have a format of <code>{soundscape_id}.ogg</code>, while test soundscapes have a format of <code>soundscape_{soundscape_id}.ogg</code></p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2823972,
              "author_name": "CPMP",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-05-19T14:07:05.390000",
              "content": "<p>Right, my bad, I didn't read the \"naming\" word.</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2738332,
      "author_name": "Shiro",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-04-06T09:25:00.543000",
      "content": "<p>Is it solved or still ongoing ?</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2738359,
          "author_name": "Hicham Bellafkir",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-04-06T09:40:18.357000",
          "content": "<p>It's already solved </p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2738254,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-04-06T08:08:38.430000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
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    "2737281": "The original hidden test set sample submission retained last year's audio duration of ten minutes, which was causing quite a few submission errors. I'm updating the relevant files now for consistency with the four minute audio files used this year. The patch ~~is in flight and should complete within a few hours~~ is live.\n\nAll submissions currently in flight will probably fail due to this update; don't worry about a problem in your code if you see errors for the next several hours.\n\nSorry about the confusion and hassle, this one was entirely on me. \n",
    "2738646": "Why not put several dummy ogg files in the test folder with proper naming as most of competitions do? ",
    "2738227": "Hello! Thanks for the update, but today I get a Notebook Threw Exception, almost from the start of the code execution, there is not even a library installed, yesterday the code ran for 40 minutes. Here is my notebook: https://www.kaggle.com/code/aikhmelnytskyy/birdclef24- pretraining-is-all-you-need-infer",
    "2749371": "@sohier \nAs with the other competitions, we would like you to include 2~3 appropriate files.\nThe test file name/format and the unclear subscript numbers in the row_id of the submmision clearly make the submission more difficult than in the regular competition. As a result, we have had a wildly divergent discussion limited solely to the submission method.\nUsers who are participating at this time are probably familiar with this format, as they have participated in the past. However, as the number of participants increases in the future, this problem will become more significant.\n\nThanks for reading.",
    "2738332": "Is it solved or still ongoing ?",
    "2738254": ""
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