{
  "id": 402395,
  "title": "Please add more significant digits to LB scores",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/402395",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-04-18T07:38:34.441556600Z",
  "votes": 12,
  "comment_count": 8,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>We'd like a little more information about our public score, not the relative order.<br>\nWhat do you think? <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tomdenton\" target=\"_blank\">@tomdenton</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/holgerklinck\" target=\"_blank\">@holgerklinck</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/maggiemd\" target=\"_blank\">@maggiemd</a></p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2225476",
      "postDate": "04/18/2023 07:38:34",
      "content": "<p>We'd like a little more information about our public score, not the relative order.<br>\nWhat do you think? <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tomdenton\" target=\"_blank\">@tomdenton</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/holgerklinck\" target=\"_blank\">@holgerklinck</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/maggiemd\" target=\"_blank\">@maggiemd</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "We'd like a little more information about our public score, not the relative order.\nWhat do you think? @stefankahl @tomdenton @holgerklinck @sohier @maggiemd",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2227706",
      "postDate": "04/20/2023 01:00:03",
      "content": "<p>I'm pretty sure that this is intentional. It's to prevent leaderboard probing</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm pretty sure that this is intentional. It's to prevent leaderboard probing",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2228694",
      "postDate": "04/20/2023 18:11:08",
      "content": "<p>I thought of the same. Will final standings on private set be based on two decimal score <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tomdenton\" target=\"_blank\">@tomdenton</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/holgerklinck\" target=\"_blank\">@holgerklinck</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/maggiemd\" target=\"_blank\">@maggiemd</a> ?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I thought of the same. Will final standings on private set be based on two decimal score @stefankahl @tomdenton @holgerklinck @sohier @maggiemd ?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2231226",
      "postDate": "04/23/2023 07:00:03",
      "content": "<p>No, as far as I can see on the admin panel, we're using 6 decimals right now.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "No, as far as I can see on the admin panel, we're using 6 decimals right now.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2246784",
      "postDate": "05/05/2023 13:11:00",
      "content": "<p>I think you can see more digits looking at the kaggle metadata, <br>\nhowever, it is not good pratice to trust the LB score to low digits numbers, since you will very likely overfit it </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think you can see more digits looking at the kaggle metadata, \nhowever, it is not good pratice to trust the LB score to low digits numbers, since you will very likely overfit it",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2247345",
      "postDate": "05/05/2023 22:49:32",
      "content": "<p>I can guess my score using the place I have in between others and by sorting my score based on public score. Of course it's not accurate. However, for your place it is really hard to guess.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I can guess my score using the place I have in between others and by sorting my score based on public score. Of course it's not accurate. However, for your place it is really hard to guess.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2252079",
      "postDate": "05/09/2023 21:43:23",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/janmpia\" target=\"_blank\">@janmpia</a> can you clarify what you mean by looking at metadata?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "janmpia can you clarify what you mean by looking at metadata?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2253155",
      "postDate": "05/10/2023 01:17:00",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wcukierski\" target=\"_blank\">@wcukierski</a><br>\nI thought some people were looking at the kaggle metadata in the \"Submissions\" table where you could see more digits, but I haven't checked myself, that might be a myth lol</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "wcukierski\nI thought some people were looking at the kaggle metadata in the \"Submissions\" table where you could see more digits, but I haven't checked myself, that might be a myth lol",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2254234",
      "postDate": "05/10/2023 18:37:14",
      "content": "<p>Ahh, thanks! Competitions only show in Meta Kaggle after they're finished, so it doesn't give any decimal hints on live competitions :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Ahh, thanks! Competitions only show in Meta Kaggle after they're finished, so it doesn't give any decimal hints on live competitions :)",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2227706,
      "author_name": "pelegshilo",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/20/2023 01:00:03",
      "content": "<p>I'm pretty sure that this is intentional. It's to prevent leaderboard probing</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2228694,
      "author_name": "hakandogan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/20/2023 18:11:08",
      "content": "<p>I thought of the same. Will final standings on private set be based on two decimal score <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tomdenton\" target=\"_blank\">@tomdenton</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/holgerklinck\" target=\"_blank\">@holgerklinck</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/maggiemd\" target=\"_blank\">@maggiemd</a> ?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2231226,
          "author_name": "stefankahl",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/23/2023 07:00:03",
          "content": "<p>No, as far as I can see on the admin panel, we're using 6 decimals right now.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2246784,
      "author_name": "janmpia",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/05/2023 13:11:00",
      "content": "<p>I think you can see more digits looking at the kaggle metadata, <br>\nhowever, it is not good pratice to trust the LB score to low digits numbers, since you will very likely overfit it </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2252079,
          "author_name": "wcukierski",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/09/2023 21:43:23",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/janmpia\" target=\"_blank\">@janmpia</a> can you clarify what you mean by looking at metadata?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2253155,
              "author_name": "janmpia",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "05/10/2023 01:17:00",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/wcukierski\" target=\"_blank\">@wcukierski</a><br>\nI thought some people were looking at the kaggle metadata in the \"Submissions\" table where you could see more digits, but I haven't checked myself, that might be a myth lol</p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": [
                {
                  "id": 2254234,
                  "author_name": "wcukierski",
                  "author_url": "",
                  "post_date": "05/10/2023 18:37:14",
                  "content": "<p>Ahh, thanks! Competitions only show in Meta Kaggle after they're finished, so it doesn't give any decimal hints on live competitions :)</p>",
                  "votes": null,
                  "replies": []
                }
              ]
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2247345,
      "author_name": "tjamali",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/05/2023 22:49:32",
      "content": "<p>I can guess my score using the place I have in between others and by sorting my score based on public score. Of course it's not accurate. However, for your place it is really hard to guess.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "2225476": "We'd like a little more information about our public score, not the relative order.\nWhat do you think? @stefankahl @tomdenton @holgerklinck @sohier @maggiemd",
    "2227706": "I'm pretty sure that this is intentional. It's to prevent leaderboard probing",
    "2228694": "I thought of the same. Will final standings on private set be based on two decimal score @stefankahl @tomdenton @holgerklinck @sohier @maggiemd ?",
    "2231226": "No, as far as I can see on the admin panel, we're using 6 decimals right now.",
    "2246784": "I think you can see more digits looking at the kaggle metadata, \nhowever, it is not good pratice to trust the LB score to low digits numbers, since you will very likely overfit it",
    "2247345": "I can guess my score using the place I have in between others and by sorting my score based on public score. Of course it's not accurate. However, for your place it is really hard to guess.",
    "2252079": "janmpia can you clarify what you mean by looking at metadata?",
    "2253155": "wcukierski\nI thought some people were looking at the kaggle metadata in the \"Submissions\" table where you could see more digits, but I haven't checked myself, that might be a myth lol",
    "2254234": "Ahh, thanks! Competitions only show in Meta Kaggle after they're finished, so it doesn't give any decimal hints on live competitions :)"
  },
  "source": "meta"
}