{
  "id": 396101,
  "title": "Test Dataset - ",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2023/discussion/396101",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-03-20T10:38:38.397557600Z",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 4,
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  "content": "<p>Can we have the presence of birds out of the 264 species in the test dataset ? </p>",
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    {
      "id": "2189224",
      "postDate": "03/20/2023 10:38:38",
      "content": "<p>Can we have the presence of birds out of the 264 species in the test dataset ? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Can we have the presence of birds out of the 264 species in the test dataset ?",
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    {
      "id": "2189267",
      "postDate": "03/20/2023 11:11:35",
      "content": "<p>We can only reveal that not all 264 species occur in the test data, but we cannot disclose which do and which do not. Usually, this is what a real-world task would look like. You'd have a set of species that might occur at a given location, but you'll never know which of those will actually vocalize.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "We can only reveal that not all 264 species occur in the test data, but we cannot disclose which do and which do not. Usually, this is what a real-world task would look like. You'd have a set of species that might occur at a given location, but you'll never know which of those will actually vocalize.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2189845",
      "postDate": "03/20/2023 20:19:31",
      "content": "<p>Thank for your reply <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a>  <br>\nMy question was maybe a little unclear, I was referring to bird from other competitions (2021, 2022), which are not part of our 264 species for this 2023 competition. For instance, in the hidden test you shared in another post, I saw some species labelise as \"???\" which seems to mean birds but not able to recognize, so it could be other species i suppose ? . How are they deal during the metric computation ? Are they considered as no call or Are they not used in the metric ? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank for your reply @stefankahl  \nMy question was maybe a little unclear, I was referring to bird from other competitions (2021, 2022), which are not part of our 264 species for this 2023 competition. For instance, in the hidden test you shared in another post, I saw some species labelise as \"???\" which seems to mean birds but not able to recognize, so it could be other species i suppose ? . How are they deal during the metric computation ? Are they considered as no call or Are they not used in the metric ?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2189849",
      "postDate": "03/20/2023 20:27:32",
      "content": "<p>We've already provided all of the information that we can about the birds in the test set.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "We've already provided all of the information that we can about the birds in the test set.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "2190357",
      "postDate": "03/21/2023 07:50:11",
      "content": "<p>I may expect that they will be considered as <code>nocall</code> . Because we have fixed number of columns in our sample_submission and even if we want to predict more, we will not be able to do it </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I may expect that they will be considered as `nocall` . Because we have fixed number of columns in our sample_submission and even if we want to predict more, we will not be able to do it",
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    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2189267,
      "author_name": "stefankahl",
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      "post_date": "03/20/2023 11:11:35",
      "content": "<p>We can only reveal that not all 264 species occur in the test data, but we cannot disclose which do and which do not. Usually, this is what a real-world task would look like. You'd have a set of species that might occur at a given location, but you'll never know which of those will actually vocalize.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2189845,
          "author_name": "ludovick",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "03/20/2023 20:19:31",
          "content": "<p>Thank for your reply <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a>  <br>\nMy question was maybe a little unclear, I was referring to bird from other competitions (2021, 2022), which are not part of our 264 species for this 2023 competition. For instance, in the hidden test you shared in another post, I saw some species labelise as \"???\" which seems to mean birds but not able to recognize, so it could be other species i suppose ? . How are they deal during the metric computation ? Are they considered as no call or Are they not used in the metric ? </p>",
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            {
              "id": 2189849,
              "author_name": "sohier",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "03/20/2023 20:27:32",
              "content": "<p>We've already provided all of the information that we can about the birds in the test set.</p>",
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            {
              "id": 2190357,
              "author_name": "vladimirsydor",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "03/21/2023 07:50:11",
              "content": "<p>I may expect that they will be considered as <code>nocall</code> . Because we have fixed number of columns in our sample_submission and even if we want to predict more, we will not be able to do it </p>",
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    "2189224": "Can we have the presence of birds out of the 264 species in the test dataset ?",
    "2189267": "We can only reveal that not all 264 species occur in the test data, but we cannot disclose which do and which do not. Usually, this is what a real-world task would look like. You'd have a set of species that might occur at a given location, but you'll never know which of those will actually vocalize.",
    "2189845": "Thank for your reply @stefankahl  \nMy question was maybe a little unclear, I was referring to bird from other competitions (2021, 2022), which are not part of our 264 species for this 2023 competition. For instance, in the hidden test you shared in another post, I saw some species labelise as \"???\" which seems to mean birds but not able to recognize, so it could be other species i suppose ? . How are they deal during the metric computation ? Are they considered as no call or Are they not used in the metric ?",
    "2189849": "We've already provided all of the information that we can about the birds in the test set.",
    "2190357": "I may expect that they will be considered as `nocall` . Because we have fixed number of columns in our sample_submission and even if we want to predict more, we will not be able to do it"
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