{
  "id": 238246,
  "title": "Last 3 weeks: What should you do?",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2021/discussion/238246",
  "author_name": "Kamal Das",
  "post_date": "2021-05-11T16:52:17.120000",
  "votes": 17,
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  "content": "<p>Ok… been focusing more on HPA and Indoor and have not submitted anything in over 2 weeks..</p>\n<p>now back to see if we can create some magic and improve on the score here</p>\n<p>What should you do?</p>\n<p>1) Earlier comps<br>\nAs CPMP mentioned, look at earlier competitions and study them<br>\nlink: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/234464\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/234464</a></p>\n<p>Tensor girl as always has a list that you can refer to:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230029\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230029</a>  <br>\n&amp; by Sirish here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/229998\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/229998</a></p>\n<p>Also  some research papers <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230025\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230025</a>  (Thanks <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/usharengaraju\" target=\"_blank\">@usharengaraju</a>)<br>\nand by Charlie Craine  : <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230043\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230043</a></p>\n<p>2) Ensemble and how?<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma\" target=\"_blank\">@kneroma</a> has been kind to suggest how to succeed \" bagging is the key\"<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/233454\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/233454</a></p>\n<p>Please also refer to his wonderful notebooks:<br>\nTraining: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-training-colab\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-training-colab</a><br>\nInference: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-inference\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-inference</a><br>\npls also go through the comments in the notebooks and ask whet you do not understand. <br>\nkkiller is very helpful!</p>\n<p>How to ensemble is a great discussion by Nitin Datta: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/237502\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/237502</a><br>\nAnd as the ever helpful <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cdeotte\" target=\"_blank\">@cdeotte</a> notes, initially \"focus on one model and make it as accurate as possible\" then try to ensemble. Don't jump into ensembling straight away!<br>\nHis notes on post-process from an earlier audio comp are likely to be helpful here (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/rfcx-species-audio-detection/discussion/220389\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/rfcx-species-audio-detection/discussion/220389</a>)</p>\n<p>3) Read more!<br>\nIn the Indoor comp, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mamasinkgs\" target=\"_blank\">@mamasinkgs</a>  gave me some of the best advice:<br>\n(a) EDA by yourself.<br>\n(b) Understand good kernels (regardless of their score).<br>\n(Source: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/indoor-location-navigation/discussion/228796\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/indoor-location-navigation/discussion/228796</a>)<br>\npart (b) is important-- don't just look at the top scoring Kernels. Lots of other notebooks have great approaches you can leverage. </p>\n<p>4) Trust your CV and build your own pipeline<br>\nWhile I do not expect surprises and shakeup like in hubmap, Theo Viel's suggestion will be ever helpful: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/238150\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/238150</a></p>\n<p>Trust your CV and good luck in the final few weeks.<br>\nAs CPMP has suggested, the GMs are coming… and there will be a lot of great ideas  in the coming weeks<br>\nand looking to learn and understand more about audio analysis, once we discuss the best approaches!!</p>\n<p>ALL THE BEST!!</p>",
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      "postDate": "2021-05-11T16:52:17.120Z",
      "content": "<p>Ok… been focusing more on HPA and Indoor and have not submitted anything in over 2 weeks..</p>\n<p>now back to see if we can create some magic and improve on the score here</p>\n<p>What should you do?</p>\n<p>1) Earlier comps<br>\nAs CPMP mentioned, look at earlier competitions and study them<br>\nlink: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/234464\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/234464</a></p>\n<p>Tensor girl as always has a list that you can refer to:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230029\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230029</a>  <br>\n&amp; by Sirish here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/229998\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/229998</a></p>\n<p>Also  some research papers <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230025\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230025</a>  (Thanks <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/usharengaraju\" target=\"_blank\">@usharengaraju</a>)<br>\nand by Charlie Craine  : <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230043\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230043</a></p>\n<p>2) Ensemble and how?<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma\" target=\"_blank\">@kneroma</a> has been kind to suggest how to succeed \" bagging is the key\"<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/233454\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/233454</a></p>\n<p>Please also refer to his wonderful notebooks:<br>\nTraining: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-training-colab\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-training-colab</a><br>\nInference: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-inference\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-inference</a><br>\npls also go through the comments in the notebooks and ask whet you do not understand. <br>\nkkiller is very helpful!</p>\n<p>How to ensemble is a great discussion by Nitin Datta: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/237502\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/237502</a><br>\nAnd as the ever helpful <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cdeotte\" target=\"_blank\">@cdeotte</a> notes, initially \"focus on one model and make it as accurate as possible\" then try to ensemble. Don't jump into ensembling straight away!<br>\nHis notes on post-process from an earlier audio comp are likely to be helpful here (<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/rfcx-species-audio-detection/discussion/220389\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/rfcx-species-audio-detection/discussion/220389</a>)</p>\n<p>3) Read more!<br>\nIn the Indoor comp, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mamasinkgs\" target=\"_blank\">@mamasinkgs</a>  gave me some of the best advice:<br>\n(a) EDA by yourself.<br>\n(b) Understand good kernels (regardless of their score).<br>\n(Source: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/indoor-location-navigation/discussion/228796\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/indoor-location-navigation/discussion/228796</a>)<br>\npart (b) is important-- don't just look at the top scoring Kernels. Lots of other notebooks have great approaches you can leverage. </p>\n<p>4) Trust your CV and build your own pipeline<br>\nWhile I do not expect surprises and shakeup like in hubmap, Theo Viel's suggestion will be ever helpful: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/238150\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/238150</a></p>\n<p>Trust your CV and good luck in the final few weeks.<br>\nAs CPMP has suggested, the GMs are coming… and there will be a lot of great ideas  in the coming weeks<br>\nand looking to learn and understand more about audio analysis, once we discuss the best approaches!!</p>\n<p>ALL THE BEST!!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Ok... been focusing more on HPA and Indoor and have not submitted anything in over 2 weeks..\n\nnow back to see if we can create some magic and improve on the score here\n\nWhat should you do?\n\n1) Earlier comps\nAs CPMP mentioned, look at earlier competitions and study them\nlink: https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/234464\n\nTensor girl as always has a list that you can refer to:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230029  \n& by Sirish here: https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/229998\n\nAlso  some research papers https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230025  (Thanks @usharengaraju)\nand by Charlie Craine  : https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230043\n\n2) Ensemble and how?\n@kneroma has been kind to suggest how to succeed \" bagging is the key\"\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/233454\n\nPlease also refer to his wonderful notebooks:\nTraining: https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-training-colab\nInference: https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-inference\npls also go through the comments in the notebooks and ask whet you do not understand. \nkkiller is very helpful!\n\nHow to ensemble is a great discussion by Nitin Datta: https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/237502\nAnd as the ever helpful @cdeotte notes, initially \"focus on one model and make it as accurate as possible\" then try to ensemble. Don't jump into ensembling straight away!\nHis notes on post-process from an earlier audio comp are likely to be helpful here (https://www.kaggle.com/c/rfcx-species-audio-detection/discussion/220389)\n\n3) Read more!\nIn the Indoor comp, @mamasinkgs  gave me some of the best advice:\n(a) EDA by yourself.\n(b) Understand good kernels (regardless of their score).\n(Source: https://www.kaggle.com/c/indoor-location-navigation/discussion/228796)\npart (b) is important-- don't just look at the top scoring Kernels. Lots of other notebooks have great approaches you can leverage. \n\n4) Trust your CV and build your own pipeline\nWhile I do not expect surprises and shakeup like in hubmap, Theo Viel's suggestion will be ever helpful: https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/238150\n\nTrust your CV and good luck in the final few weeks.\nAs CPMP has suggested, the GMs are coming... and there will be a lot of great ideas  in the coming weeks\nand looking to learn and understand more about audio analysis, once we discuss the best approaches!!\n\nALL THE BEST!!\n\n\n",
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      "id": 1302684,
      "postDate": "2021-05-11T16:57:55.880Z",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Last 3 weeks: What should you do?</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Let's save time for all and stop the competition right now.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "> Last 3 weeks: What should you do?\n\nLet's save time for all and stop the competition right now.",
      "votes": 12
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      "id": 1315591,
      "postDate": "2021-05-20T00:57:17.093Z",
      "content": "<p>super helpfulll for people like me..</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "super helpfulll for people like me..",
      "votes": 1
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      "id": 1309085,
      "postDate": "2021-05-15T16:48:10.927Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kmldas\" target=\"_blank\">@kmldas</a> Thanks for post . Super Helpful for late starters like me</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@kmldas Thanks for post . Super Helpful for late starters like me",
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          "postDate": "2021-05-15T16:52:12.920Z",
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      "author_name": "CPMP",
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      "post_date": "2021-05-11T16:57:55.880000",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Last 3 weeks: What should you do?</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Let's save time for all and stop the competition right now.</p>",
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      "id": 1315591,
      "author_name": "madara1234567",
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      "post_date": "2021-05-20T00:57:17.093000",
      "content": "<p>super helpfulll for people like me..</p>",
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      "author_name": "Tensor Girl",
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      "post_date": "2021-05-15T16:48:10.927000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kmldas\" target=\"_blank\">@kmldas</a> Thanks for post . Super Helpful for late starters like me</p>",
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    "1302669": "Ok... been focusing more on HPA and Indoor and have not submitted anything in over 2 weeks..\n\nnow back to see if we can create some magic and improve on the score here\n\nWhat should you do?\n\n1) Earlier comps\nAs CPMP mentioned, look at earlier competitions and study them\nlink: https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/234464\n\nTensor girl as always has a list that you can refer to:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230029  \n& by Sirish here: https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/229998\n\nAlso  some research papers https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230025  (Thanks @usharengaraju)\nand by Charlie Craine  : https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/230043\n\n2) Ensemble and how?\n@kneroma has been kind to suggest how to succeed \" bagging is the key\"\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/233454\n\nPlease also refer to his wonderful notebooks:\nTraining: https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-training-colab\nInference: https://www.kaggle.com/kneroma/clean-fast-simple-bird-identifier-inference\npls also go through the comments in the notebooks and ask whet you do not understand. \nkkiller is very helpful!\n\nHow to ensemble is a great discussion by Nitin Datta: https://www.kaggle.com/c/birdclef-2021/discussion/237502\nAnd as the ever helpful @cdeotte notes, initially \"focus on one model and make it as accurate as possible\" then try to ensemble. Don't jump into ensembling straight away!\nHis notes on post-process from an earlier audio comp are likely to be helpful here (https://www.kaggle.com/c/rfcx-species-audio-detection/discussion/220389)\n\n3) Read more!\nIn the Indoor comp, @mamasinkgs  gave me some of the best advice:\n(a) EDA by yourself.\n(b) Understand good kernels (regardless of their score).\n(Source: https://www.kaggle.com/c/indoor-location-navigation/discussion/228796)\npart (b) is important-- don't just look at the top scoring Kernels. Lots of other notebooks have great approaches you can leverage. \n\n4) Trust your CV and build your own pipeline\nWhile I do not expect surprises and shakeup like in hubmap, Theo Viel's suggestion will be ever helpful: https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/238150\n\nTrust your CV and good luck in the final few weeks.\nAs CPMP has suggested, the GMs are coming... and there will be a lot of great ideas  in the coming weeks\nand looking to learn and understand more about audio analysis, once we discuss the best approaches!!\n\nALL THE BEST!!\n\n\n",
    "1302684": "> Last 3 weeks: What should you do?\n\nLet's save time for all and stop the competition right now.",
    "1315591": "super helpfulll for people like me..",
    "1309085": "@kmldas Thanks for post . Super Helpful for late starters like me"
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