{
  "id": 232238,
  "title": "Can we get spatial information on the soundscapes`",
  "url": "/competitions/birdclef-2021/discussion/232238",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2021-04-12T19:10:46.592392400Z",
  "votes": 3,
  "comment_count": 9,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Would it be possible to get the lat and lon for all the soundscapes. We have it for the bird songs but not the soundscapes.<br>\nThanks!</p>",
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    {
      "id": "1271663",
      "postDate": "04/12/2021 19:10:46",
      "content": "<p>Would it be possible to get the lat and lon for all the soundscapes. We have it for the bird songs but not the soundscapes.<br>\nThanks!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Would it be possible to get the lat and lon for all the soundscapes. We have it for the bird songs but not the soundscapes.\nThanks!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1271783",
      "postDate": "04/12/2021 22:45:02",
      "content": "<p>I figured it out but is a convoluted path to get there. There is no metadata on the location in the training_soundscapes directory. </p>\n<p>You need to go into the test_soundscapes directory. In this directory there are four files  that start with 3 letter abbreviation for the 4 soundscape sites. </p>\n<p>Inside each file you will get </p>\n<ol>\n<li>The place name for the soundscape site</li>\n<li>The country of the soundscape site</li>\n<li>The latitude for the recording site  </li>\n<li>The longitude for the recording site </li>\n</ol>\n<p>I assume all the decimal degree coordinate for the soundscapes and \"individual\" calls are in EPSG:4326</p>\n<p>From these files you can then figure out the location of the training soundscapes</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I figured it out but is a convoluted path to get there. There is no metadata on the location in the training_soundscapes directory. \n\nYou need to go into the test_soundscapes directory. In this directory there are four files  that start with 3 letter abbreviation for the 4 soundscape sites. \n\nInside each file you will get \n1.  The place name for the soundscape site\n2. The country of the soundscape site\n3. The latitude for the recording site  \n4. The longitude for the recording site \n\nI assume all the decimal degree coordinate for the soundscapes and \"individual\" calls are in EPSG:4326\n\nFrom these files you can then figure out the location of the training soundscapes",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1271788",
      "postDate": "04/12/2021 23:01:31",
      "content": "<p>I went ahead and made a CSV file for people to use for all the soundscape locations. Perhaps we could put this as a metadata file in the top directory of the dataset (or maybe in next competition 😄). No upload allowed so I'll just paste it here</p>\n<p>id,place-name,country,lat,lon<br>\nSNE,\"Sierra Nevada, California\",USA,38.49,-119.95<br>\nCOR,\"Alajuela, San Ramón\",Costa Rica,10.12,-84.51<br>\nCOL,\"Jardín, Departamento de Antioquia\",Columbia,5.57,-75.85<br>\nSSW,\"Ithaca, New York\",USA,42.47,-76.45</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I went ahead and made a CSV file for people to use for all the soundscape locations. Perhaps we could put this as a metadata file in the top directory of the dataset (or maybe in next competition 😄). No upload allowed so I'll just paste it here\n\nid,place-name,country,lat,lon\nSNE,\"Sierra Nevada, California\",USA,38.49,-119.95\nCOR,\"Alajuela, San Ramón\",Costa Rica,10.12,-84.51\nCOL,\"Jardín, Departamento de Antioquia\",Columbia,5.57,-75.85\nSSW,\"Ithaca, New York\",USA,42.47,-76.45",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1272404",
      "postDate": "04/13/2021 12:59:59",
      "content": "<p>I didn't notice this, thanks for pointing it out.</p>\n<p>I wish host was providing a similar file for train soundscapes so that we know the name of columns for instance.  Let me ask.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I didn't notice this, thanks for pointing it out.\n\nI wish host was providing a similar file for train soundscapes so that we know the name of columns for instance.  Let me ask.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1272405",
      "postDate": "04/13/2021 13:01:52",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>This folder also contains text files with the name and approximate coordinates of the recording location plus a csv with the set of dates the test set soundscapes were recorded.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> See above, can you describe the additional files in test data that provide location and time of recordings?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "> This folder also contains text files with the name and approximate coordinates of the recording location plus a csv with the set of dates the test set soundscapes were recorded.\n\n\n@stefankahl See above, can you describe the additional files in test data that provide location and time of recordings?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1273439",
      "postDate": "04/14/2021 11:00:44",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tomdenton\" target=\"_blank\">@tomdenton</a> See above, can you document the additional files?</p>\n<p>Edit, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> has answered, no need for action therefore.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "tomdenton See above, can you document the additional files?\n\nEdit, @stefankahl has answered, no need for action therefore.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1273482",
      "postDate": "04/14/2021 11:46:20",
      "content": "<p>I'll provide a quick description of the test soundscape metadata (which also applies for the training soundscapes). Each of the 4 \".txt\" files contains a brief description of the recording location and GPS coordinates of the recording site.</p>\n<p>Let's look at one example:</p>\n<pre><code>Ithaca, New York\nUSA\n\nLatitude: 42.47\nLongitude: -76.45\n</code></pre>\n<p>This file is named \"<strong>SSW_recording_location.txt</strong>\" and with that the name reveals that this is the recording site for all SSW soundscapes (test and train). Recordings were made in Ithaca, New York in the USA - if you look up the GPS coordinates on <a href=\"https://goo.gl/maps/1CEzhwMP6ZmZ5nsm8\" target=\"_blank\">Google Maps</a> you can see that this is near the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (not exactly, coordinates are approximations). </p>\n<p>Files were recorded at different dates and at slightly different locations with different recorders (we always use recorder arrays, we obscured this information for train and test soundscapes). Each filename of the train and test soundscapes consists of <code>&lt;fileid&gt;_&lt;site&gt;_&lt;date yyyymmdd&gt;.ogg</code> which should help you to distinguish between different seasons/months for different recording sites.</p>\n<p>Let me know if you have more questions or need additional information.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'll provide a quick description of the test soundscape metadata (which also applies for the training soundscapes). Each of the 4 \".txt\" files contains a brief description of the recording location and GPS coordinates of the recording site.\n\nLet's look at one example:\n\n```\nIthaca, New York\nUSA\n\nLatitude: 42.47\nLongitude: -76.45\n```\n\nThis file is named \"**SSW_recording_location.txt**\" and with that the name reveals that this is the recording site for all SSW soundscapes (test and train). Recordings were made in Ithaca, New York in the USA - if you look up the GPS coordinates on [Google Maps](https://goo.gl/maps/1CEzhwMP6ZmZ5nsm8) you can see that this is near the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (not exactly, coordinates are approximations). \n\nFiles were recorded at different dates and at slightly different locations with different recorders (we always use recorder arrays, we obscured this information for train and test soundscapes). Each filename of the train and test soundscapes consists of `<fileid>_<site>_<date yyyymmdd>.ogg` which should help you to distinguish between different seasons/months for different recording sites.\n\nLet me know if you have more questions or need additional information.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1279120",
      "postDate": "04/20/2021 15:46:38",
      "content": "<p>How did you chose the locations, for instance \"Alajuela, San Ramón\" ?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "How did you chose the locations, for instance \"Alajuela, San Ramón\" ?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1279747",
      "postDate": "04/21/2021 08:03:06",
      "content": "<p>Each location description is just a rough estimation of the area that we used as recording site. We use recorder arrays which are often distributed across a habitat. So there is no precise location, I used the center of the recording cluster and then rounded lat and lon which still provides a good indication for a potential species mix.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Each location description is just a rough estimation of the area that we used as recording site. We use recorder arrays which are often distributed across a habitat. So there is no precise location, I used the center of the recording cluster and then rounded lat and lon which still provides a good indication for a potential species mix.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1279750",
      "postDate": "04/21/2021 08:06:36",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> thanks </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "stefankahl thanks",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1271783,
      "author_name": "thesteve0",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/12/2021 22:45:02",
      "content": "<p>I figured it out but is a convoluted path to get there. There is no metadata on the location in the training_soundscapes directory. </p>\n<p>You need to go into the test_soundscapes directory. In this directory there are four files  that start with 3 letter abbreviation for the 4 soundscape sites. </p>\n<p>Inside each file you will get </p>\n<ol>\n<li>The place name for the soundscape site</li>\n<li>The country of the soundscape site</li>\n<li>The latitude for the recording site  </li>\n<li>The longitude for the recording site </li>\n</ol>\n<p>I assume all the decimal degree coordinate for the soundscapes and \"individual\" calls are in EPSG:4326</p>\n<p>From these files you can then figure out the location of the training soundscapes</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1272404,
          "author_name": "cpmpml",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/13/2021 12:59:59",
          "content": "<p>I didn't notice this, thanks for pointing it out.</p>\n<p>I wish host was providing a similar file for train soundscapes so that we know the name of columns for instance.  Let me ask.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1272405,
          "author_name": "cpmpml",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/13/2021 13:01:52",
          "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>This folder also contains text files with the name and approximate coordinates of the recording location plus a csv with the set of dates the test set soundscapes were recorded.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> See above, can you describe the additional files in test data that provide location and time of recordings?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1273439,
          "author_name": "cpmpml",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/14/2021 11:00:44",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tomdenton\" target=\"_blank\">@tomdenton</a> See above, can you document the additional files?</p>\n<p>Edit, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> has answered, no need for action therefore.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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    },
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      "id": 1271788,
      "author_name": "thesteve0",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/12/2021 23:01:31",
      "content": "<p>I went ahead and made a CSV file for people to use for all the soundscape locations. Perhaps we could put this as a metadata file in the top directory of the dataset (or maybe in next competition 😄). No upload allowed so I'll just paste it here</p>\n<p>id,place-name,country,lat,lon<br>\nSNE,\"Sierra Nevada, California\",USA,38.49,-119.95<br>\nCOR,\"Alajuela, San Ramón\",Costa Rica,10.12,-84.51<br>\nCOL,\"Jardín, Departamento de Antioquia\",Columbia,5.57,-75.85<br>\nSSW,\"Ithaca, New York\",USA,42.47,-76.45</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1279120,
          "author_name": "cpmpml",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/20/2021 15:46:38",
          "content": "<p>How did you chose the locations, for instance \"Alajuela, San Ramón\" ?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1279747,
          "author_name": "stefankahl",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/21/2021 08:03:06",
          "content": "<p>Each location description is just a rough estimation of the area that we used as recording site. We use recorder arrays which are often distributed across a habitat. So there is no precise location, I used the center of the recording cluster and then rounded lat and lon which still provides a good indication for a potential species mix.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1279750,
          "author_name": "cpmpml",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/21/2021 08:06:36",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/stefankahl\" target=\"_blank\">@stefankahl</a> thanks </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1273482,
      "author_name": "stefankahl",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/14/2021 11:46:20",
      "content": "<p>I'll provide a quick description of the test soundscape metadata (which also applies for the training soundscapes). Each of the 4 \".txt\" files contains a brief description of the recording location and GPS coordinates of the recording site.</p>\n<p>Let's look at one example:</p>\n<pre><code>Ithaca, New York\nUSA\n\nLatitude: 42.47\nLongitude: -76.45\n</code></pre>\n<p>This file is named \"<strong>SSW_recording_location.txt</strong>\" and with that the name reveals that this is the recording site for all SSW soundscapes (test and train). Recordings were made in Ithaca, New York in the USA - if you look up the GPS coordinates on <a href=\"https://goo.gl/maps/1CEzhwMP6ZmZ5nsm8\" target=\"_blank\">Google Maps</a> you can see that this is near the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (not exactly, coordinates are approximations). </p>\n<p>Files were recorded at different dates and at slightly different locations with different recorders (we always use recorder arrays, we obscured this information for train and test soundscapes). Each filename of the train and test soundscapes consists of <code>&lt;fileid&gt;_&lt;site&gt;_&lt;date yyyymmdd&gt;.ogg</code> which should help you to distinguish between different seasons/months for different recording sites.</p>\n<p>Let me know if you have more questions or need additional information.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "1271663": "Would it be possible to get the lat and lon for all the soundscapes. We have it for the bird songs but not the soundscapes.\nThanks!",
    "1271783": "I figured it out but is a convoluted path to get there. There is no metadata on the location in the training_soundscapes directory. \n\nYou need to go into the test_soundscapes directory. In this directory there are four files  that start with 3 letter abbreviation for the 4 soundscape sites. \n\nInside each file you will get \n1.  The place name for the soundscape site\n2. The country of the soundscape site\n3. The latitude for the recording site  \n4. The longitude for the recording site \n\nI assume all the decimal degree coordinate for the soundscapes and \"individual\" calls are in EPSG:4326\n\nFrom these files you can then figure out the location of the training soundscapes",
    "1271788": "I went ahead and made a CSV file for people to use for all the soundscape locations. Perhaps we could put this as a metadata file in the top directory of the dataset (or maybe in next competition 😄). No upload allowed so I'll just paste it here\n\nid,place-name,country,lat,lon\nSNE,\"Sierra Nevada, California\",USA,38.49,-119.95\nCOR,\"Alajuela, San Ramón\",Costa Rica,10.12,-84.51\nCOL,\"Jardín, Departamento de Antioquia\",Columbia,5.57,-75.85\nSSW,\"Ithaca, New York\",USA,42.47,-76.45",
    "1272404": "I didn't notice this, thanks for pointing it out.\n\nI wish host was providing a similar file for train soundscapes so that we know the name of columns for instance.  Let me ask.",
    "1272405": "> This folder also contains text files with the name and approximate coordinates of the recording location plus a csv with the set of dates the test set soundscapes were recorded.\n\n\n@stefankahl See above, can you describe the additional files in test data that provide location and time of recordings?",
    "1273439": "tomdenton See above, can you document the additional files?\n\nEdit, @stefankahl has answered, no need for action therefore.",
    "1273482": "I'll provide a quick description of the test soundscape metadata (which also applies for the training soundscapes). Each of the 4 \".txt\" files contains a brief description of the recording location and GPS coordinates of the recording site.\n\nLet's look at one example:\n\n```\nIthaca, New York\nUSA\n\nLatitude: 42.47\nLongitude: -76.45\n```\n\nThis file is named \"**SSW_recording_location.txt**\" and with that the name reveals that this is the recording site for all SSW soundscapes (test and train). Recordings were made in Ithaca, New York in the USA - if you look up the GPS coordinates on [Google Maps](https://goo.gl/maps/1CEzhwMP6ZmZ5nsm8) you can see that this is near the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (not exactly, coordinates are approximations). \n\nFiles were recorded at different dates and at slightly different locations with different recorders (we always use recorder arrays, we obscured this information for train and test soundscapes). Each filename of the train and test soundscapes consists of `<fileid>_<site>_<date yyyymmdd>.ogg` which should help you to distinguish between different seasons/months for different recording sites.\n\nLet me know if you have more questions or need additional information.",
    "1279120": "How did you chose the locations, for instance \"Alajuela, San Ramón\" ?",
    "1279747": "Each location description is just a rough estimation of the area that we used as recording site. We use recorder arrays which are often distributed across a habitat. So there is no precise location, I used the center of the recording cluster and then rounded lat and lon which still provides a good indication for a potential species mix.",
    "1279750": "stefankahl thanks"
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