{ "id": 434179, "title": "Are non-commercial use libraries allowed?", "url": "/competitions/bengaliai-speech/discussion/434179", "author_name": "Tawara", "post_date": "2023-08-24T08:04:05.737000", "votes": 8, "comment_count": 6, "views": 0, "content": "

There are some libraries that are licensed as not for commercial use.

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For example, Meta Research denoiser mentioned in this topic is released under the CC-BY-NC 4.0, i.e., this library is not allowed for commercial use.

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IMO, It seems that the competition rules does not allow such a non-commercial use library according to 8.C of B. GENERAL COMPETITION RULES:

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C. Use of Open Source. Unless otherwise stated in the Specific Competition Rules above, if open source code is used in the model to generate the Submission, then you must only use open source code licensed under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code.

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What do you think?

", "messages": [ { "id": 2406088, "postDate": "2023-08-24T08:04:05.737Z", "content": "

There are some libraries that are licensed as not for commercial use.

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For example, Meta Research denoiser mentioned in this topic is released under the CC-BY-NC 4.0, i.e., this library is not allowed for commercial use.

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IMO, It seems that the competition rules does not allow such a non-commercial use library according to 8.C of B. GENERAL COMPETITION RULES:

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C. Use of Open Source. Unless otherwise stated in the Specific Competition Rules above, if open source code is used in the model to generate the Submission, then you must only use open source code licensed under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code.

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What do you think?

", "rawMarkdown": "There are some libraries that are licensed as not for commercial use.\n\nFor example, [Meta Research denoiser](https://github.com/facebookresearch/denoiser/) mentioned in [this topic](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/bengaliai-speech/discussion/430400) is released under the CC-BY-NC 4.0, i.e., this library is not allowed for commercial use.\n\nIMO, It seems that [the competition rules](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/bengaliai-speech/rules) does not allow such a non-commercial use library according to 8.C of B. GENERAL COMPETITION RULES:\n\n> C. Use of Open Source. Unless otherwise stated in the Specific Competition Rules above, if open source code is used in the model to generate the Submission, then you must only use open source code licensed under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that **in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code**.\n\nWhat do you think?", "votes": 7 }, { "id": 2413578, "postDate": "2023-08-29T02:53:31.377Z", "content": "

Thanks @ttahara for your question! Yes, you are correct. Based on this term in the Rules:

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Open Source: You hereby license and will license your winning Submission and the source code used to generate the Submission under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code. To the extent your Submission makes use of generally commercially available software not owned by you that you used to generate your submission, but that can be procured by the Competition Sponsor without undue expense, you do not grant the license in the preceding sentence to that software.

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The library will be part of the \"ingredients\" of the solution, which needs to be commercially usable. Thus your interpretation is correct. Thanks!

", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks @ttahara for your question! Yes, you are correct. Based on this term in the Rules:\n\n>Open Source: You hereby license and will license your winning Submission and the source code used to generate the Submission under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code. To the extent your Submission makes use of generally commercially available software not owned by you that you used to generate your submission, but that can be procured by the Competition Sponsor without undue expense, you do not grant the license in the preceding sentence to that software.\n\nThe library will be part of the \"ingredients\" of the solution, which needs to be commercially usable. Thus your interpretation is correct. Thanks!", "votes": 4, "replies": [ { "id": 2413579, "postDate": "2023-08-29T02:58:19.433Z", "content": "

@ashleychow I see, thank you for clarification!

", "rawMarkdown": "@ashleychow I see, thank you for clarification!", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 2439326, "postDate": "2023-09-14T19:02:44.103Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true } ] }, { "id": 2412499, "postDate": "2023-08-28T10:03:51.367Z", "content": "

@reasat Do you have an answer for this question?

", "rawMarkdown": "@reasat Do you have an answer for this question?", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 2422649, "postDate": "2023-09-04T06:48:05.463Z", "content": "

@baohaoliao Not allowed :)

", "rawMarkdown": "@baohaoliao Not allowed :)", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 2434346, "postDate": "2023-09-12T08:39:19.090Z", "content": "

Is there any open source denoiser that is allowed commercial usage?

", "rawMarkdown": "Is there any open source denoiser that is allowed commercial usage? " } ], "comments": [ { "id": 2413578, "author_name": "Ashley Chow", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2023-08-29T02:53:31.377000", "content": "

Thanks @ttahara for your question! Yes, you are correct. Based on this term in the Rules:

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Open Source: You hereby license and will license your winning Submission and the source code used to generate the Submission under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code. To the extent your Submission makes use of generally commercially available software not owned by you that you used to generate your submission, but that can be procured by the Competition Sponsor without undue expense, you do not grant the license in the preceding sentence to that software.

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The library will be part of the \"ingredients\" of the solution, which needs to be commercially usable. Thus your interpretation is correct. Thanks!

", "votes": 4, "replies": [ { "id": 2413579, "author_name": "Tawara", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2023-08-29T02:58:19.433000", "content": "

@ashleychow I see, thank you for clarification!

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2439326, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2023-09-14T19:02:44.103000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 2412499, "author_name": "bliao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2023-08-28T10:03:51.367000", "content": "

@reasat Do you have an answer for this question?

", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 2422649, "author_name": "DestructiveForce", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2023-09-04T06:48:05.463000", "content": "

@baohaoliao Not allowed :)

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 2434346, "author_name": "Roy Wei", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2023-09-12T08:39:19.090000", "content": "

Is there any open source denoiser that is allowed commercial usage?

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "2406088": "There are some libraries that are licensed as not for commercial use.\n\nFor example, [Meta Research denoiser](https://github.com/facebookresearch/denoiser/) mentioned in [this topic](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/bengaliai-speech/discussion/430400) is released under the CC-BY-NC 4.0, i.e., this library is not allowed for commercial use.\n\nIMO, It seems that [the competition rules](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/bengaliai-speech/rules) does not allow such a non-commercial use library according to 8.C of B. GENERAL COMPETITION RULES:\n\n> C. Use of Open Source. Unless otherwise stated in the Specific Competition Rules above, if open source code is used in the model to generate the Submission, then you must only use open source code licensed under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that **in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code**.\n\nWhat do you think?", "2413578": "Thanks @ttahara for your question! Yes, you are correct. Based on this term in the Rules:\n\n>Open Source: You hereby license and will license your winning Submission and the source code used to generate the Submission under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such code or model containing or depending on such code. To the extent your Submission makes use of generally commercially available software not owned by you that you used to generate your submission, but that can be procured by the Competition Sponsor without undue expense, you do not grant the license in the preceding sentence to that software.\n\nThe library will be part of the \"ingredients\" of the solution, which needs to be commercially usable. Thus your interpretation is correct. Thanks!", "2412499": "@reasat Do you have an answer for this question?", "2434346": "Is there any open source denoiser that is allowed commercial usage? " } }