{
  "id": 394959,
  "title": "Adding negative examples to the training dataset",
  "url": "/competitions/asl-signs/discussion/394959",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-03-15T11:36:18.445729600Z",
  "votes": null,
  "comment_count": 4,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Has anyone tried adding some non-sign MediaPipe data to the dataset as a separate \"negative\" class? I've heard that adding 10-15% negative samples could improve the model performance.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2182917",
      "postDate": "03/15/2023 11:36:18",
      "content": "<p>Has anyone tried adding some non-sign MediaPipe data to the dataset as a separate \"negative\" class? I've heard that adding 10-15% negative samples could improve the model performance.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Has anyone tried adding some non-sign MediaPipe data to the dataset as a separate \"negative\" class? I've heard that adding 10-15% negative samples could improve the model performance.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2182953",
      "postDate": "03/15/2023 11:58:08",
      "content": "<p>May I ask how to get the non-sign MediaPipe data</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "May I ask how to get the non-sign MediaPipe data",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2182963",
      "postDate": "03/15/2023 12:07:02",
      "content": "<p>MediaPipe docs mention <a href=\"https://google.github.io/mediapipe/solutions/youtube_8m.html#extracting-video-features-for-youtube-8m-challenge\" target=\"_blank\">Youtube-8M challenge</a> and <a href=\"https://github.com/google/youtube-8m/tree/master/feature_extractor\" target=\"_blank\">this repo</a> for landmark extraction, I'm not sure if there's a processed dataset though, because it's set up to extract different kind of landmarks (RGB features instead of pose features).</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "MediaPipe docs mention [Youtube-8M challenge](https://google.github.io/mediapipe/solutions/youtube_8m.html#extracting-video-features-for-youtube-8m-challenge) and [this repo](https://github.com/google/youtube-8m/tree/master/feature_extractor) for landmark extraction, I'm not sure if there's a processed dataset though, because it's set up to extract different kind of landmarks (RGB features instead of pose features).",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2182973",
      "postDate": "03/15/2023 12:11:27",
      "content": "<p>flip the parquet file (mirror left right) and treated them as unlabelled data<br>\n(i think some hand sign are symmetrical and the left-right hand can interchange)</p>\n<p>but i am more into self-supervised learning with transformer<br>\ni am going to use generative prediction (predict the next frame skeleton landmark) and let the model to watch millions of youtube ASL videos </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "flip the parquet file (mirror left right) and treated them as unlabelled data\n(i think some hand sign are symmetrical and the left-right hand can interchange)\n\nbut i am more into self-supervised learning with transformer\ni am going to use generative prediction (predict the next frame skeleton landmark) and let the model to watch millions of youtube ASL videos",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2184980",
      "postDate": "03/16/2023 18:10:10",
      "content": "<p>just realise that reverse time can also be used as unlabelled data</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "just realise that reverse time can also be used as unlabelled data",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2182953,
      "author_name": "sayoulala",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/15/2023 11:58:08",
      "content": "<p>May I ask how to get the non-sign MediaPipe data</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2182963,
          "author_name": "vbogach",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "03/15/2023 12:07:02",
          "content": "<p>MediaPipe docs mention <a href=\"https://google.github.io/mediapipe/solutions/youtube_8m.html#extracting-video-features-for-youtube-8m-challenge\" target=\"_blank\">Youtube-8M challenge</a> and <a href=\"https://github.com/google/youtube-8m/tree/master/feature_extractor\" target=\"_blank\">this repo</a> for landmark extraction, I'm not sure if there's a processed dataset though, because it's set up to extract different kind of landmarks (RGB features instead of pose features).</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2182973,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/15/2023 12:11:27",
      "content": "<p>flip the parquet file (mirror left right) and treated them as unlabelled data<br>\n(i think some hand sign are symmetrical and the left-right hand can interchange)</p>\n<p>but i am more into self-supervised learning with transformer<br>\ni am going to use generative prediction (predict the next frame skeleton landmark) and let the model to watch millions of youtube ASL videos </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2184980,
          "author_name": "hengck23",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "03/16/2023 18:10:10",
          "content": "<p>just realise that reverse time can also be used as unlabelled data</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
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    "2182917": "Has anyone tried adding some non-sign MediaPipe data to the dataset as a separate \"negative\" class? I've heard that adding 10-15% negative samples could improve the model performance.",
    "2182953": "May I ask how to get the non-sign MediaPipe data",
    "2182963": "MediaPipe docs mention [Youtube-8M challenge](https://google.github.io/mediapipe/solutions/youtube_8m.html#extracting-video-features-for-youtube-8m-challenge) and [this repo](https://github.com/google/youtube-8m/tree/master/feature_extractor) for landmark extraction, I'm not sure if there's a processed dataset though, because it's set up to extract different kind of landmarks (RGB features instead of pose features).",
    "2182973": "flip the parquet file (mirror left right) and treated them as unlabelled data\n(i think some hand sign are symmetrical and the left-right hand can interchange)\n\nbut i am more into self-supervised learning with transformer\ni am going to use generative prediction (predict the next frame skeleton landmark) and let the model to watch millions of youtube ASL videos",
    "2184980": "just realise that reverse time can also be used as unlabelled data"
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