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  "id": 391582,
  "title": "What is the purpose of pose?",
  "url": "/competitions/asl-signs/discussion/391582",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-03-01T21:01:34.198662200Z",
  "votes": 1,
  "comment_count": 4,
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  "content": "<p>So we have <code>['face', 'left_hand', 'pose', 'right_hand']</code> in every frame -some with NAN values, but I'm not sure if <code>pose</code> is useful for our case or not. <br>\nDoes anyone have any ideas about the role of the <code>pose</code> type here?<br>\nOtherwise, I was thinking of ignoring it completely. </p>",
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    {
      "id": "2164879",
      "postDate": "03/01/2023 21:01:34",
      "content": "<p>So we have <code>['face', 'left_hand', 'pose', 'right_hand']</code> in every frame -some with NAN values, but I'm not sure if <code>pose</code> is useful for our case or not. <br>\nDoes anyone have any ideas about the role of the <code>pose</code> type here?<br>\nOtherwise, I was thinking of ignoring it completely. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "So we have `['face', 'left_hand', 'pose', 'right_hand']` in every frame -some with NAN values, but I'm not sure if `pose` is useful for our case or not. \nDoes anyone have any ideas about the role of the `pose` type here?\nOtherwise, I was thinking of ignoring it completely.",
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      "id": "2165013",
      "postDate": "03/01/2023 23:37:05",
      "content": "<p>Some of the signs are related to other parts of the body.  For example, the sign for \"face\" involves drawing a circle around your face.  So, for this sign and probably some others too, you probably want to know where the rest of the body is.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Some of the signs are related to other parts of the body.  For example, the sign for \"face\" involves drawing a circle around your face.  So, for this sign and probably some others too, you probably want to know where the rest of the body is.",
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      "id": "2165151",
      "postDate": "03/02/2023 02:58:50",
      "content": "<p>for augmentation, for data stratification</p>\n<p>if you want you can add it as input.<br>\njust concate another pose_embedding (e.g. nn.embed(4, embed_dim))</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "for augmentation, for data stratification\n\nif you want you can add it as input.\njust concate another pose_embedding (e.g. nn.embed(4, embed_dim))",
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      "id": "2165469",
      "postDate": "03/02/2023 08:27:25",
      "content": "<p>Thanks, Andrew, will make a research on other similar signs where body pose is relevant  :) <br>\nBut I think in the example you mentioned won't the face and hand position is enough?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks, Andrew, will make a research on other similar signs where body pose is relevant  :) \nBut I think in the example you mentioned won't the face and hand position is enough?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2173281",
      "postDate": "03/08/2023 09:05:59",
      "content": "<p>Ok, no excuse for anyone to ask anything anymore 😅🤐<br>\nThis is ChatGPT answer to my question when I asked about an example where body language is important:</p>\n<p>Body language can be important in understanding the meaning of sign language because it can convey information that is not expressed through the hands or face alone. For example, the position and movement of the body can indicate the spatial relationships between objects or people.</p>\n<p>One example of this is when describing the location of an object. In American Sign Language (ASL), to indicate the location of an object, the signer might use their body to show where the object is in relation to themselves or another object. For example, if the object is on a table, the signer might move their body to indicate the position of the table, and then use their hands to show the location of the object on the table.</p>\n<p>Additionally, body language can convey the emotions and attitudes of the signer. For example, a sign that might be neutral in meaning can be made stronger or more emphatic through the use of body language, such as using strong gestures, facial expressions, or even leaning forward to indicate intensity.</p>\n<p>Overall, body language plays a critical role in conveying meaning in sign language and helps to provide additional context and information beyond the hands and face alone.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Ok, no excuse for anyone to ask anything anymore 😅🤐\nThis is ChatGPT answer to my question when I asked about an example where body language is important:\n\nBody language can be important in understanding the meaning of sign language because it can convey information that is not expressed through the hands or face alone. For example, the position and movement of the body can indicate the spatial relationships between objects or people.\n\nOne example of this is when describing the location of an object. In American Sign Language (ASL), to indicate the location of an object, the signer might use their body to show where the object is in relation to themselves or another object. For example, if the object is on a table, the signer might move their body to indicate the position of the table, and then use their hands to show the location of the object on the table.\n\nAdditionally, body language can convey the emotions and attitudes of the signer. For example, a sign that might be neutral in meaning can be made stronger or more emphatic through the use of body language, such as using strong gestures, facial expressions, or even leaning forward to indicate intensity.\n\nOverall, body language plays a critical role in conveying meaning in sign language and helps to provide additional context and information beyond the hands and face alone.",
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      "id": 2165013,
      "author_name": "andrewrrose",
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      "post_date": "03/01/2023 23:37:05",
      "content": "<p>Some of the signs are related to other parts of the body.  For example, the sign for \"face\" involves drawing a circle around your face.  So, for this sign and probably some others too, you probably want to know where the rest of the body is.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2165469,
          "author_name": "rashasalim",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "03/02/2023 08:27:25",
          "content": "<p>Thanks, Andrew, will make a research on other similar signs where body pose is relevant  :) <br>\nBut I think in the example you mentioned won't the face and hand position is enough?</p>",
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    {
      "id": 2165151,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/02/2023 02:58:50",
      "content": "<p>for augmentation, for data stratification</p>\n<p>if you want you can add it as input.<br>\njust concate another pose_embedding (e.g. nn.embed(4, embed_dim))</p>",
      "votes": null,
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      "id": 2173281,
      "author_name": "rashasalim",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "03/08/2023 09:05:59",
      "content": "<p>Ok, no excuse for anyone to ask anything anymore 😅🤐<br>\nThis is ChatGPT answer to my question when I asked about an example where body language is important:</p>\n<p>Body language can be important in understanding the meaning of sign language because it can convey information that is not expressed through the hands or face alone. For example, the position and movement of the body can indicate the spatial relationships between objects or people.</p>\n<p>One example of this is when describing the location of an object. In American Sign Language (ASL), to indicate the location of an object, the signer might use their body to show where the object is in relation to themselves or another object. For example, if the object is on a table, the signer might move their body to indicate the position of the table, and then use their hands to show the location of the object on the table.</p>\n<p>Additionally, body language can convey the emotions and attitudes of the signer. For example, a sign that might be neutral in meaning can be made stronger or more emphatic through the use of body language, such as using strong gestures, facial expressions, or even leaning forward to indicate intensity.</p>\n<p>Overall, body language plays a critical role in conveying meaning in sign language and helps to provide additional context and information beyond the hands and face alone.</p>",
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    "2164879": "So we have `['face', 'left_hand', 'pose', 'right_hand']` in every frame -some with NAN values, but I'm not sure if `pose` is useful for our case or not. \nDoes anyone have any ideas about the role of the `pose` type here?\nOtherwise, I was thinking of ignoring it completely.",
    "2165013": "Some of the signs are related to other parts of the body.  For example, the sign for \"face\" involves drawing a circle around your face.  So, for this sign and probably some others too, you probably want to know where the rest of the body is.",
    "2165151": "for augmentation, for data stratification\n\nif you want you can add it as input.\njust concate another pose_embedding (e.g. nn.embed(4, embed_dim))",
    "2165469": "Thanks, Andrew, will make a research on other similar signs where body pose is relevant  :) \nBut I think in the example you mentioned won't the face and hand position is enough?",
    "2173281": "Ok, no excuse for anyone to ask anything anymore 😅🤐\nThis is ChatGPT answer to my question when I asked about an example where body language is important:\n\nBody language can be important in understanding the meaning of sign language because it can convey information that is not expressed through the hands or face alone. For example, the position and movement of the body can indicate the spatial relationships between objects or people.\n\nOne example of this is when describing the location of an object. In American Sign Language (ASL), to indicate the location of an object, the signer might use their body to show where the object is in relation to themselves or another object. For example, if the object is on a table, the signer might move their body to indicate the position of the table, and then use their hands to show the location of the object on the table.\n\nAdditionally, body language can convey the emotions and attitudes of the signer. For example, a sign that might be neutral in meaning can be made stronger or more emphatic through the use of body language, such as using strong gestures, facial expressions, or even leaning forward to indicate intensity.\n\nOverall, body language plays a critical role in conveying meaning in sign language and helps to provide additional context and information beyond the hands and face alone."
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