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  "id": 105916,
  "title": "Reasons this competition deadline should be extended",
  "url": "/competitions/aptos2019-blindness-detection/discussion/105916",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2019-08-27T07:10:26.021684300Z",
  "votes": 16,
  "comment_count": 16,
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  "content": "<p>This competition has been riddled with many problems. I list some of them here:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>The kernel submission process had <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/aptos2019-blindness-detection/discussion/102547\">errors</a> for several days</li>\n<li>The GPU limits were significantly decreased, disrupting the workflow of many participants</li>\n<li>Even now, there is currently a problem with kernels. In particular, kernels are not committing properly.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>I only think it is fair that the competition deadline be extended. I think a one week extension would be fair.</p>\n\n<p>What does the community think?</p>\n\n<p>EDIT (9/3): There is yet another kernel error, just 2 days before the end of the competition! This makes it hard for many competitors who are trying to submit their best models. This is yet another reason the deadline should be extended.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "608794",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:10:26",
      "content": "<p>This competition has been riddled with many problems. I list some of them here:</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>The kernel submission process had <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/aptos2019-blindness-detection/discussion/102547\">errors</a> for several days</li>\n<li>The GPU limits were significantly decreased, disrupting the workflow of many participants</li>\n<li>Even now, there is currently a problem with kernels. In particular, kernels are not committing properly.</li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>I only think it is fair that the competition deadline be extended. I think a one week extension would be fair.</p>\n\n<p>What does the community think?</p>\n\n<p>EDIT (9/3): There is yet another kernel error, just 2 days before the end of the competition! This makes it hard for many competitors who are trying to submit their best models. This is yet another reason the deadline should be extended.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This competition has been riddled with many problems. I list some of them here:\n\n1. The kernel submission process had [errors](https://www.kaggle.com/c/aptos2019-blindness-detection/discussion/102547) for several days\n2. The GPU limits were significantly decreased, disrupting the workflow of many participants\n3. Even now, there is currently a problem with kernels. In particular, kernels are not committing properly.\n\nI only think it is fair that the competition deadline be extended. I think a one week extension would be fair.\n\nWhat does the community think?\n\nEDIT (9/3): There is yet another kernel error, just 2 days before the end of the competition! This makes it hard for many competitors who are trying to submit their best models. This is yet another reason the deadline should be extended.",
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    {
      "id": "608798",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:13:11",
      "content": "<p>agree with you!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "agree with you!",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "608803",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:17:28",
      "content": "<p>PLS NO!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "PLS NO!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "608811",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:25:37",
      "content": "<p>Why not? could you please elaborate?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Why not? could you please elaborate?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "608815",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:29:17",
      "content": "<p>Multiple reasons: (1) It is unfair against people who have spent a lot of time on it already, (2) this competition is getting really boring, (3) other competitions going on, (4) I wanna play world of warcraft, (5) life.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Multiple reasons: (1) It is unfair against people who have spent a lot of time on it already, (2) this competition is getting really boring, (3) other competitions going on, (4) I wanna play world of warcraft, (5) life.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "608817",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:30:03",
      "content": "<p>all kaggler have the same problem....</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "all kaggler have the same problem....",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "608820",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:31:26",
      "content": "<p>I would say no too. All issues affect everyone equally, so it's still fair.  But my 'no' opinion is personal, this competition consumes a lot of my time and energy, and I would love to do something else after this  one [world of warcraft is not a bad choice] ;)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I would say no too. All issues affect everyone equally, so it's still fair.  But my 'no' opinion is personal, this competition consumes a lot of my time and energy, and I would love to do something else after this  one [world of warcraft is not a bad choice] ;)",
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      "id": "608826",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:33:32",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/philippsinger\">@philippsinger</a> most of these seem personal problems that don't seem relevant to the point lol</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "philippsinger most of these seem personal problems that don't seem relevant to the point lol",
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    {
      "id": "608833",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 07:39:09",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/tanlikesmath\">@tanlikesmath</a> They are relevant. There is a deadline. People make commitments to meet this deadline. If you didn't manage it that way then that's your problem. Deadline extensions imho should only take place if there are issues 1-2 days before deadline. Otherwise you have plenty of time to adapt.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "tanlikesmath They are relevant. There is a deadline. People make commitments to meet this deadline. If you didn't manage it that way then that's your problem. Deadline extensions imho should only take place if there are issues 1-2 days before deadline. Otherwise you have plenty of time to adapt.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "608858",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 08:12:02",
      "content": "<p>I wanna play world of warcraft too. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I wanna play world of warcraft too.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "608963",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 09:44:34",
      "content": "<p>No please.  Competition is getting really boring and I want to focus on other competitions as well. This competition is eating up the 1 GPU kernel slot. And as others have mentioned, I want to play CS GO 😀  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "No please.  Competition is getting really boring and I want to focus on other competitions as well. This competition is eating up the 1 GPU kernel slot. And as others have mentioned, I want to play CS GO 😀",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "609071",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 11:51:52",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/ratthachat\">@ratthachat</a> It is not affecting everyone equally, because some people have access to GPU. I agree with every reason pointed out by <a href=\"/tanlikesmath\">@tanlikesmath</a> \nI don't want to be competing in this challenge for ever either, but at least some days or one more week to compensate the several problems commiting and sunmitting we have had.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "ratthachat It is not affecting everyone equally, because some people have access to GPU. I agree with every reason pointed out by @tanlikesmath \nI don't want to be competing in this challenge for ever either, but at least some days or one more week to compensate the several problems commiting and sunmitting we have had.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "609233",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 14:18:57",
      "content": "<p>hoping for it...wasted for more than 1 and half day with commit issues...didn't realize it is problem for everyone</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "hoping for it...wasted for more than 1 and half day with commit issues...didn't realize it is problem for everyone",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "609335",
      "postDate": "08/27/2019 15:59:27",
      "content": "<p>I agree. I eventually left this competition for the Understanding Clouds from Satellite Images. No bugs there. :) </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I agree. I eventually left this competition for the Understanding Clouds from Satellite Images. No bugs there. :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "609674",
      "postDate": "08/28/2019 01:49:23",
      "content": "<p>Arent people lining up to kill some quest mob?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Arent people lining up to kill some quest mob?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "609741",
      "postDate": "08/28/2019 04:10:10",
      "content": "<p>i think extension of week or 5 days is still fair  dsnt adds to more boring time as well give more time to those who still trying hard to get to the place where they want to be...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "i think extension of week or 5 days is still fair  dsnt adds to more boring time as well give more time to those who still trying hard to get to the place where they want to be...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "609765",
      "postDate": "08/28/2019 04:56:48",
      "content": "<p>+\nI also can't wait to see public leaderbord) </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I also can't wait to see public leaderbord)",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": 608798,
      "author_name": "leixiang",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:13:11",
      "content": "<p>agree with you!</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 608803,
      "author_name": "philippsinger",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:17:28",
      "content": "<p>PLS NO!</p>",
      "votes": null,
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          "id": 608811,
          "author_name": "tanlikesmath",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:25:37",
          "content": "<p>Why not? could you please elaborate?</p>",
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          "id": 608815,
          "author_name": "philippsinger",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:29:17",
          "content": "<p>Multiple reasons: (1) It is unfair against people who have spent a lot of time on it already, (2) this competition is getting really boring, (3) other competitions going on, (4) I wanna play world of warcraft, (5) life.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 608820,
          "author_name": "ratthachat",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:31:26",
          "content": "<p>I would say no too. All issues affect everyone equally, so it's still fair.  But my 'no' opinion is personal, this competition consumes a lot of my time and energy, and I would love to do something else after this  one [world of warcraft is not a bad choice] ;)</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
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          "id": 608826,
          "author_name": "tanlikesmath",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:33:32",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/philippsinger\">@philippsinger</a> most of these seem personal problems that don't seem relevant to the point lol</p>",
          "votes": null,
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          "id": 608833,
          "author_name": "philippsinger",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:39:09",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/tanlikesmath\">@tanlikesmath</a> They are relevant. There is a deadline. People make commitments to meet this deadline. If you didn't manage it that way then that's your problem. Deadline extensions imho should only take place if there are issues 1-2 days before deadline. Otherwise you have plenty of time to adapt.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 608858,
          "author_name": "chanhu",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 08:12:02",
          "content": "<p>I wanna play world of warcraft too. </p>",
          "votes": null,
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          "id": 608963,
          "author_name": "virajbagal",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 09:44:34",
          "content": "<p>No please.  Competition is getting really boring and I want to focus on other competitions as well. This competition is eating up the 1 GPU kernel slot. And as others have mentioned, I want to play CS GO 😀  </p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 609071,
          "author_name": "carlospk",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/27/2019 11:51:52",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/ratthachat\">@ratthachat</a> It is not affecting everyone equally, because some people have access to GPU. I agree with every reason pointed out by <a href=\"/tanlikesmath\">@tanlikesmath</a> \nI don't want to be competing in this challenge for ever either, but at least some days or one more week to compensate the several problems commiting and sunmitting we have had.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 609674,
          "author_name": "krsoju",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/28/2019 01:49:23",
          "content": "<p>Arent people lining up to kill some quest mob?</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 609765,
          "author_name": "kupchanski",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "08/28/2019 04:56:48",
          "content": "<p>+\nI also can't wait to see public leaderbord) </p>",
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    {
      "id": 608817,
      "author_name": "kimtaegwan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/27/2019 07:30:03",
      "content": "<p>all kaggler have the same problem....</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    {
      "id": 609233,
      "author_name": "asrsaiteja",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/27/2019 14:18:57",
      "content": "<p>hoping for it...wasted for more than 1 and half day with commit issues...didn't realize it is problem for everyone</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 609335,
      "author_name": "pocketmad",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/27/2019 15:59:27",
      "content": "<p>I agree. I eventually left this competition for the Understanding Clouds from Satellite Images. No bugs there. :) </p>",
      "votes": null,
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      "id": 609741,
      "author_name": "jaideepvalani",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/28/2019 04:10:10",
      "content": "<p>i think extension of week or 5 days is still fair  dsnt adds to more boring time as well give more time to those who still trying hard to get to the place where they want to be...</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    "608794": "This competition has been riddled with many problems. I list some of them here:\n\n1. The kernel submission process had [errors](https://www.kaggle.com/c/aptos2019-blindness-detection/discussion/102547) for several days\n2. The GPU limits were significantly decreased, disrupting the workflow of many participants\n3. Even now, there is currently a problem with kernels. In particular, kernels are not committing properly.\n\nI only think it is fair that the competition deadline be extended. I think a one week extension would be fair.\n\nWhat does the community think?\n\nEDIT (9/3): There is yet another kernel error, just 2 days before the end of the competition! This makes it hard for many competitors who are trying to submit their best models. This is yet another reason the deadline should be extended.",
    "608798": "agree with you!",
    "608803": "PLS NO!",
    "608811": "Why not? could you please elaborate?",
    "608815": "Multiple reasons: (1) It is unfair against people who have spent a lot of time on it already, (2) this competition is getting really boring, (3) other competitions going on, (4) I wanna play world of warcraft, (5) life.",
    "608817": "all kaggler have the same problem....",
    "608820": "I would say no too. All issues affect everyone equally, so it's still fair.  But my 'no' opinion is personal, this competition consumes a lot of my time and energy, and I would love to do something else after this  one [world of warcraft is not a bad choice] ;)",
    "608826": "philippsinger most of these seem personal problems that don't seem relevant to the point lol",
    "608833": "tanlikesmath They are relevant. There is a deadline. People make commitments to meet this deadline. If you didn't manage it that way then that's your problem. Deadline extensions imho should only take place if there are issues 1-2 days before deadline. Otherwise you have plenty of time to adapt.",
    "608858": "I wanna play world of warcraft too.",
    "608963": "No please.  Competition is getting really boring and I want to focus on other competitions as well. This competition is eating up the 1 GPU kernel slot. And as others have mentioned, I want to play CS GO 😀",
    "609071": "ratthachat It is not affecting everyone equally, because some people have access to GPU. I agree with every reason pointed out by @tanlikesmath \nI don't want to be competing in this challenge for ever either, but at least some days or one more week to compensate the several problems commiting and sunmitting we have had.",
    "609233": "hoping for it...wasted for more than 1 and half day with commit issues...didn't realize it is problem for everyone",
    "609335": "I agree. I eventually left this competition for the Understanding Clouds from Satellite Images. No bugs there. :)",
    "609674": "Arent people lining up to kill some quest mob?",
    "609741": "i think extension of week or 5 days is still fair  dsnt adds to more boring time as well give more time to those who still trying hard to get to the place where they want to be...",
    "609765": "I also can't wait to see public leaderbord)"
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