I joined kaggle 6 years ago and spent a lot of time on various competitions. This is the first time that I was removed from the leaderboard. I did make an appeal and got feedback as following :
\n\"We have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.\"
\nI don't know which account is my 'multiple account' or which team 'share' my submission. Don't even know who to blame.
\nAfter all these disappointments, I think maybe it's time to say goodbye.
\nLife is not just kaggle. The happiest thing here is that I have made many friends and learnt a lot from others.
update: everything is fine for me now. I decide to forgive the one who make mistakes and give him a second chance to be honest in the future.
", "messages": [ { "id": 1918908, "postDate": "2022-08-30T01:34:21.557Z", "content": "I joined kaggle 6 years ago and spent a lot of time on various competitions. This is the first time that I was removed from the leaderboard. I did make an appeal and got feedback as following :
\n\"We have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.\"
\nI don't know which account is my 'multiple account' or which team 'share' my submission. Don't even know who to blame.
\nAfter all these disappointments, I think maybe it's time to say goodbye.
\nLife is not just kaggle. The happiest thing here is that I have made many friends and learnt a lot from others.
update: everything is fine for me now. I decide to forgive the one who make mistakes and give him a second chance to be honest in the future.
", "rawMarkdown": "I joined kaggle 6 years ago and spent a lot of time on various competitions. This is the first time that I was removed from the leaderboard. I did make an appeal and got feedback as following :\n\"We have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.\"\nI don't know which account is my 'multiple account' or which team 'share' my submission. Don't even know who to blame. \nAfter all these disappointments, I think maybe it's time to say goodbye.\nLife is not just kaggle. The happiest thing here is that I have made many friends and learnt a lot from others.\n\nupdate: everything is fine for me now. I decide to forgive the one who make mistakes and give him a second chance to be honest in the future.", "votes": 35 }, { "id": 1920108, "postDate": "2022-08-30T22:18:16.457Z", "content": "It is possible that you didn't intend to cheat, but still have done something against the rules. Maybe someone who shares a computer with you has accessed a different account, and Kaggle admins interpreted that the same person accessing multiple accounts. There is no way that you didn't do anything wrong and they simply canned you.
\nI have no problem that they don't disclose their methodology, because the moment they do it someone will share that reason. That will help future offenders avoid detection, so of course they don't want to provide details.
\nIt is not difficult, however, to guess how they detect offenders. If multiple accounts are accessed from the same IP address, or if multiple accounts have similar submission names, similar submission times, it is likely that they belong to the same person.
\nAs someone who often has to adjudicate performance on exams and quizzes, I know there can't be a different set of rules for some participants vs the others. You have been super-successful on Kaggle which is a clear sign that you don't need to cheat, but that doesn't automatically mean you didn't do anything wrong. If they made exceptions for GMs but not for novices, that wouldn't be right either.
\nIt is only normal to be disappointed when you feel wronged, but I hope you reconsider and come back to Kaggle. Human errors are part of life.
", "rawMarkdown": "It is possible that you didn't intend to cheat, but still have done something against the rules. Maybe someone who shares a computer with you has accessed a different account, and Kaggle admins interpreted that the same person accessing multiple accounts. There is no way that you didn't do anything wrong and they simply canned you.\n\nI have no problem that they don't disclose their methodology, because the moment they do it someone will share that reason. That will help future offenders avoid detection, so of course they don't want to provide details.\n\nIt is not difficult, however, to guess how they detect offenders. If multiple accounts are accessed from the same IP address, or if multiple accounts have similar submission names, similar submission times, it is likely that they belong to the same person.\n\nAs someone who often has to adjudicate performance on exams and quizzes, I know there can't be a different set of rules for some participants vs the others. You have been super-successful on Kaggle which is a clear sign that you don't need to cheat, but that doesn't automatically mean you didn't do anything wrong. If they made exceptions for GMs but not for novices, that wouldn't be right either.\n\nIt is only normal to be disappointed when you feel wronged, but I hope you reconsider and come back to Kaggle. Human errors are part of life.", "votes": 8, "replies": [ { "id": 1920212, "postDate": "2022-08-31T02:08:17.877Z", "content": "I agree with you, except for the fllowing part
\n\n\nThere is no way that you didn't do anything wrong and they simply canned you.
\n
The fact is that sometimes you didn't do anything wrong but have to pay for others fault.
\nFor example, you may get robbed on the street; and it is not your fault but you have to pay for it.
Just to understand, how can someone can gain access to your output files ?
", "rawMarkdown": "Just to understand, how can someone can gain access to your output files ? ", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1920673, "postDate": "2022-08-31T10:06:07.790Z", "content": "I was wondering the same thing, It looks like by the comments that @deamon100 managed to get the submission.csv from @qiaoshiji computer somehow, that is mad.
", "rawMarkdown": "I was wondering the same thing, It looks like by the comments that @deamon100 managed to get the submission.csv from @qiaoshiji computer somehow, that is mad.", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1920816, "postDate": "2022-08-31T12:32:09.540Z", "content": "The members of my group in the company share several machine in cloud platform and each one work in seperate enviroment or project.
", "rawMarkdown": "The members of my group in the company share several machine in cloud platform and each one work in seperate enviroment or project." } ] }, { "id": 1919327, "postDate": "2022-08-30T10:21:38.937Z", "content": "@qiaoshiji I feel bad for you.
\nOf course cheaters should be removed from competition but I assume that GM tittle means at least something. Person with GM at least knows all procedures and will not risk his reputation and knows that any cheating will lead to consequences.
\nThere should be no special flow or special treatment for experienced kagglers but I would expect at least more detailed answer from Kaggle team - user and especially user in \"gold zone\" should be able to defend himself and proof that he/she didn't cheat.
\nWas a nice ride.
", "rawMarkdown": "@qiaoshiji I feel bad for you.\n\nOf course cheaters should be removed from competition but I assume that GM tittle means at least something. Person with GM at least knows all procedures and will not risk his reputation and knows that any cheating will lead to consequences. \n\nThere should be no special flow or special treatment for experienced kagglers but I would expect at least more detailed answer from Kaggle team - user and especially user in \"gold zone\" should be able to defend himself and proof that he/she didn't cheat.\n\nWas a nice ride. ", "votes": 6, "replies": [ { "id": 1920206, "postDate": "2022-08-31T01:58:06.870Z", "content": "Thanks，man. I totally agree with you. I have spent some time to figure out what really happend. And now I know who 'submit' my output files. I think kaggle is doing the right thing, but if the feedback contains more infomation (for example: wheather private sharing or using multiple accounts), I could have found out earlier. Someone around me breaks the rules and I decide to give hime a second chance. As @kyakovlev said, I do mind my reputation and finally I can sleep well tonight. Sorry to make @addisonhoward and compliance team of kaggle look like bad guys.
", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks，man. I totally agree with you. I have spent some time to figure out what really happend. And now I know who 'submit' my output files. I think kaggle is doing the right thing, but if the feedback contains more infomation (for example: wheather private sharing or using multiple accounts), I could have found out earlier. Someone around me breaks the rules and I decide to give hime a second chance. As @kyakovlev said, I do mind my reputation and finally I can sleep well tonight. Sorry to make @addisonhoward and compliance team of kaggle look like bad guys.", "votes": 5 } ] }, { "id": 1918947, "postDate": "2022-08-30T02:11:43.293Z", "content": "What a pity to end up in a way never imagined before. I believe it's a hard decision for you as a devoted kaggle player. You have always been an honest and hard-working colleague and friend. Let's forget the unhappiness and move on.✊
", "rawMarkdown": "What a pity to end up in a way never imagined before. I believe it's a hard decision for you as a devoted kaggle player. You have always been an honest and hard-working colleague and friend. Let's forget the unhappiness and move on.✊", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 1918977, "postDate": "2022-08-30T02:58:37.310Z", "content": "In a previous competition, one competitor's code was stolen during using a Chinese GPU platform.(discussion is here) Do you have some idea?
", "rawMarkdown": "In a previous competition, one competitor's code was stolen during using a Chinese GPU platform.(discussion is [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/us-patent-phrase-to-phrase-matching/discussion/337853)) Do you have some idea? ", "votes": 4, "replies": [ { "id": 1919358, "postDate": "2022-08-30T10:36:50.773Z", "content": "\n\nI find id:syxuming1 selling kaggle Amex medals in 1688.com
\n
Had suspicions this is what some people were doing.. Too many newly created accounts all in medal zone..
", "rawMarkdown": "> I find id:syxuming1 selling kaggle Amex medals in 1688.com\n\nHad suspicions this is what some people were doing.. Too many newly created accounts all in medal zone..", "votes": 2 } ] }, { "id": 2048019, "postDate": "2022-11-29T07:34:09.287Z", "content": "Hi there,
\nWe have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.
\nRegards,
\nKaggle Compliance
\nThis is the reply I got. NOT a single word differs~~
\nBTW, I noticed every winner already got their medals yesterday, so if there is anyone's remove got canceled, will some one's medal be deprived to the person? I am curious about that.
\nBTW again, I didn't pay any penny to kaggle and I will continue play kaggle, hope you also. There is no one or organization in the world is perfect.
", "rawMarkdown": "Hi there,\n\nWe have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.\n\nRegards,\n\nKaggle Compliance\n\n\n\nThis is the reply I got. NOT a single word differs~~ \n\nBTW, I noticed every winner already got their medals yesterday, so if there is anyone's remove got canceled, will some one's medal be deprived to the person? I am curious about that.\n\nBTW again, I didn't pay any penny to kaggle and I will continue play kaggle, hope you also. There is no one or organization in the world is perfect. ", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 1919413, "postDate": "2022-08-30T11:41:12.743Z", "content": "looks like a reply from a poorly trained BERT model
", "rawMarkdown": "looks like a reply from a poorly trained BERT model", "votes": 3 } ] }, { "id": 1918913, "postDate": "2022-08-30T01:41:35.373Z", "content": "My dear brother，I had the honor of forming a team with you before.
", "rawMarkdown": "My dear brother，I had the honor of forming a team with you before.", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 2065937, "postDate": "2022-12-15T08:19:50.987Z", "content": "Glad to see you in the Santa
", "rawMarkdown": "Glad to see you in the Santa", "votes": -1 }, { "id": 1919706, "postDate": "2022-08-30T16:08:07.787Z", "content": "Same situation.
", "rawMarkdown": "Same situation. ", "votes": -2 }, { "id": 1923091, "postDate": "2022-09-02T02:15:07.920Z", "content": "It's unfortunate to hear this news, I would love for you to stay Kaggle, but since you chose to leave, I respect your decision and wish you all the best and all the best for your future.
", "rawMarkdown": "It's unfortunate to hear this news, I would love for you to stay Kaggle, but since you chose to leave, I respect your decision and wish you all the best and all the best for your future." }, { "id": 1920825, "postDate": "2022-08-31T12:38:14.720Z", "content": "Hi @qiaoshiji I am sorry for the situation and for the poor reply from Kaggle. I just want to cheer you up because as you said, life is not just Kaggle, and as you also said, medals and prizes (well prizes maybe 😄) are nothing compared with the feeling of community and how we enjoy playing the game. Hope you reconsider your choice!
", "rawMarkdown": "Hi @qiaoshiji I am sorry for the situation and for the poor reply from Kaggle. I just want to cheer you up because as you said, life is not just Kaggle, and as you also said, medals and prizes (well prizes maybe 😄) are nothing compared with the feeling of community and how we enjoy playing the game. Hope you reconsider your choice!" }, { "id": 1920202, "postDate": "2022-08-31T01:53:36.467Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 3, "isDeleted": true, "replies": [ { "id": 1920858, "postDate": "2022-08-31T12:55:55.790Z", "content": "I am interested, how did you even get his submission file?
", "rawMarkdown": "I am interested, how did you even get his submission file?" }, { "id": 1920943, "postDate": "2022-08-31T13:42:05.220Z", "content": "You are asking a person who has done something wrong, and is deeply sorry about it, to tell you details of their wrongdoing. I understand the curiosity, but I think this is something that is better left alone.
", "rawMarkdown": "You are asking a person who has done something wrong, and is deeply sorry about it, to tell you details of their wrongdoing. I understand the curiosity, but I think this is something that is better left alone.", "votes": 6 } ] } ], "comments": [ { "id": 1920108, "author_name": "Tilii", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T22:18:16.457000", "content": "It is possible that you didn't intend to cheat, but still have done something against the rules. Maybe someone who shares a computer with you has accessed a different account, and Kaggle admins interpreted that the same person accessing multiple accounts. There is no way that you didn't do anything wrong and they simply canned you.
\nI have no problem that they don't disclose their methodology, because the moment they do it someone will share that reason. That will help future offenders avoid detection, so of course they don't want to provide details.
\nIt is not difficult, however, to guess how they detect offenders. If multiple accounts are accessed from the same IP address, or if multiple accounts have similar submission names, similar submission times, it is likely that they belong to the same person.
\nAs someone who often has to adjudicate performance on exams and quizzes, I know there can't be a different set of rules for some participants vs the others. You have been super-successful on Kaggle which is a clear sign that you don't need to cheat, but that doesn't automatically mean you didn't do anything wrong. If they made exceptions for GMs but not for novices, that wouldn't be right either.
\nIt is only normal to be disappointed when you feel wronged, but I hope you reconsider and come back to Kaggle. Human errors are part of life.
", "votes": 8, "replies": [ { "id": 1920212, "author_name": "Qsj", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T02:08:17.877000", "content": "I agree with you, except for the fllowing part
\n\n\nThere is no way that you didn't do anything wrong and they simply canned you.
\n
The fact is that sometimes you didn't do anything wrong but have to pay for others fault.
\nFor example, you may get robbed on the street; and it is not your fault but you have to pay for it.
Just to understand, how can someone can gain access to your output files ?
", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1920673, "author_name": "Paulo Alberto Buoro", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T10:06:07.790000", "content": "I was wondering the same thing, It looks like by the comments that @deamon100 managed to get the submission.csv from @qiaoshiji computer somehow, that is mad.
", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1920816, "author_name": "Qsj", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T12:32:09.540000", "content": "The members of my group in the company share several machine in cloud platform and each one work in seperate enviroment or project.
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1919327, "author_name": "Konstantin Yakovlev", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T10:21:38.937000", "content": "@qiaoshiji I feel bad for you.
\nOf course cheaters should be removed from competition but I assume that GM tittle means at least something. Person with GM at least knows all procedures and will not risk his reputation and knows that any cheating will lead to consequences.
\nThere should be no special flow or special treatment for experienced kagglers but I would expect at least more detailed answer from Kaggle team - user and especially user in \"gold zone\" should be able to defend himself and proof that he/she didn't cheat.
\nWas a nice ride.
", "votes": 6, "replies": [ { "id": 1920206, "author_name": "Qsj", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T01:58:06.870000", "content": "Thanks，man. I totally agree with you. I have spent some time to figure out what really happend. And now I know who 'submit' my output files. I think kaggle is doing the right thing, but if the feedback contains more infomation (for example: wheather private sharing or using multiple accounts), I could have found out earlier. Someone around me breaks the rules and I decide to give hime a second chance. As @kyakovlev said, I do mind my reputation and finally I can sleep well tonight. Sorry to make @addisonhoward and compliance team of kaggle look like bad guys.
", "votes": 5, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1918947, "author_name": "Yao Zhongwei", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T02:11:43.293000", "content": "What a pity to end up in a way never imagined before. I believe it's a hard decision for you as a devoted kaggle player. You have always been an honest and hard-working colleague and friend. Let's forget the unhappiness and move on.✊
", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1918977, "author_name": "luddite^", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T02:58:37.310000", "content": "In a previous competition, one competitor's code was stolen during using a Chinese GPU platform.(discussion is here) Do you have some idea?
", "votes": 4, "replies": [ { "id": 1919358, "author_name": "JM", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T10:36:50.773000", "content": "\n\nI find id:syxuming1 selling kaggle Amex medals in 1688.com
\n
Had suspicions this is what some people were doing.. Too many newly created accounts all in medal zone..
", "votes": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 2048019, "author_name": "StarxSky", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-11-29T07:34:09.287000", "content": "Hi there,
\nWe have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.
\nRegards,
\nKaggle Compliance
\nThis is the reply I got. NOT a single word differs~~
\nBTW, I noticed every winner already got their medals yesterday, so if there is anyone's remove got canceled, will some one's medal be deprived to the person? I am curious about that.
\nBTW again, I didn't pay any penny to kaggle and I will continue play kaggle, hope you also. There is no one or organization in the world is perfect.
", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 1919413, "author_name": "nymfree", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T11:41:12.743000", "content": "looks like a reply from a poorly trained BERT model
", "votes": 3, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1918913, "author_name": "Young for you", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T01:41:35.373000", "content": "My dear brother，I had the honor of forming a team with you before.
", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2065937, "author_name": "E-Max AI", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-12-15T08:19:50.987000", "content": "Glad to see you in the Santa
", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1919706, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-30T16:08:07.787000", "content": "Same situation.
", "votes": -2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1923091, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-09-02T02:15:07.920000", "content": "It's unfortunate to hear this news, I would love for you to stay Kaggle, but since you chose to leave, I respect your decision and wish you all the best and all the best for your future.
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1920825, "author_name": "delai50", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T12:38:14.720000", "content": "Hi @qiaoshiji I am sorry for the situation and for the poor reply from Kaggle. I just want to cheer you up because as you said, life is not just Kaggle, and as you also said, medals and prizes (well prizes maybe 😄) are nothing compared with the feeling of community and how we enjoy playing the game. Hope you reconsider your choice!
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1920202, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T01:53:36.467000", "content": "", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 1920858, "author_name": "Fritz Cremer", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T12:55:55.790000", "content": "I am interested, how did you even get his submission file?
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1920943, "author_name": "Tilii", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2022-08-31T13:42:05.220000", "content": "You are asking a person who has done something wrong, and is deeply sorry about it, to tell you details of their wrongdoing. I understand the curiosity, but I think this is something that is better left alone.
", "votes": 6, "replies": [] } ] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "1918908": "I joined kaggle 6 years ago and spent a lot of time on various competitions. This is the first time that I was removed from the leaderboard. I did make an appeal and got feedback as following :\n\"We have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.\"\nI don't know which account is my 'multiple account' or which team 'share' my submission. Don't even know who to blame. \nAfter all these disappointments, I think maybe it's time to say goodbye.\nLife is not just kaggle. The happiest thing here is that I have made many friends and learnt a lot from others.\n\nupdate: everything is fine for me now. I decide to forgive the one who make mistakes and give him a second chance to be honest in the future.", "1920108": "It is possible that you didn't intend to cheat, but still have done something against the rules. Maybe someone who shares a computer with you has accessed a different account, and Kaggle admins interpreted that the same person accessing multiple accounts. There is no way that you didn't do anything wrong and they simply canned you.\n\nI have no problem that they don't disclose their methodology, because the moment they do it someone will share that reason. That will help future offenders avoid detection, so of course they don't want to provide details.\n\nIt is not difficult, however, to guess how they detect offenders. If multiple accounts are accessed from the same IP address, or if multiple accounts have similar submission names, similar submission times, it is likely that they belong to the same person.\n\nAs someone who often has to adjudicate performance on exams and quizzes, I know there can't be a different set of rules for some participants vs the others. You have been super-successful on Kaggle which is a clear sign that you don't need to cheat, but that doesn't automatically mean you didn't do anything wrong. If they made exceptions for GMs but not for novices, that wouldn't be right either.\n\nIt is only normal to be disappointed when you feel wronged, but I hope you reconsider and come back to Kaggle. Human errors are part of life.", "1919327": "@qiaoshiji I feel bad for you.\n\nOf course cheaters should be removed from competition but I assume that GM tittle means at least something. Person with GM at least knows all procedures and will not risk his reputation and knows that any cheating will lead to consequences. \n\nThere should be no special flow or special treatment for experienced kagglers but I would expect at least more detailed answer from Kaggle team - user and especially user in \"gold zone\" should be able to defend himself and proof that he/she didn't cheat.\n\nWas a nice ride. ", "1918947": "What a pity to end up in a way never imagined before. I believe it's a hard decision for you as a devoted kaggle player. You have always been an honest and hard-working colleague and friend. Let's forget the unhappiness and move on.✊", "1918977": "In a previous competition, one competitor's code was stolen during using a Chinese GPU platform.(discussion is [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/us-patent-phrase-to-phrase-matching/discussion/337853)) Do you have some idea? ", "2048019": "# **I see you've come back! Welcome back!!👏**", "1918922": "Hi there,\n\nWe have completed our review and have determined that a member of your team violated competition rules through private sharing or using multiple accounts. We will not be reinstating your team.\n\nRegards,\n\nKaggle Compliance\n\n\n\nThis is the reply I got. NOT a single word differs~~ \n\nBTW, I noticed every winner already got their medals yesterday, so if there is anyone's remove got canceled, will some one's medal be deprived to the person? I am curious about that.\n\nBTW again, I didn't pay any penny to kaggle and I will continue play kaggle, hope you also. There is no one or organization in the world is perfect. ", "1918913": "My dear brother，I had the honor of forming a team with you before.", "2065937": "Glad to see you in the Santa", "1919706": "Same situation. ", "1923091": "It's unfortunate to hear this news, I would love for you to stay Kaggle, but since you chose to leave, I respect your decision and wish you all the best and all the best for your future.", "1920825": "Hi @qiaoshiji I am sorry for the situation and for the poor reply from Kaggle. I just want to cheer you up because as you said, life is not just Kaggle, and as you also said, medals and prizes (well prizes maybe 😄) are nothing compared with the feeling of community and how we enjoy playing the game. Hope you reconsider your choice!", "1920202": "" } }