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  "id": 148919,
  "title": "Anyone tried this as multiclass classification problem ?",
  "url": "/competitions/alaska2-image-steganalysis/discussion/148919",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2020-05-06T05:40:35.668704600Z",
  "votes": 13,
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  "content": "<p>Anyone tried this as a multiclass classification with 75000 sample for each class ? Did it do better than binary ?</p>",
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    {
      "id": "835201",
      "postDate": "05/06/2020 05:40:35",
      "content": "<p>Anyone tried this as a multiclass classification with 75000 sample for each class ? Did it do better than binary ?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Anyone tried this as a multiclass classification with 75000 sample for each class ? Did it do better than binary ?",
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    {
      "id": "835400",
      "postDate": "05/06/2020 08:45:03",
      "content": "<p>Good question. Indeed, if you look at the team that won the ALASKA#1 challenge they have not merged all images together (cover and stego).\nThey have used a two criteria splits:\n1. Images compressed with different quality factors are separated and used to train different CNN.\n2. Different classifiers were used for each embedding scheme (from binary to multi-class the gain is about 2% accuracy)</p>\n\n<p>Now, using the same trick for ALASKA2 would mean training 9 different classifiers, for 3 different quality factors and 3 different embedding scheme (or using a single multiclass classifier)</p>\n\n<p>See here for the paper: <a href=\"http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf\">http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf</a> and especially beginning of section 2.3 and Table1 for your question.\nand there for the code: <a href=\"https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska\">https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Good question. Indeed, if you look at the team that won the ALASKA#1 challenge they have not merged all images together (cover and stego).\nThey have used a two criteria splits:\n1. Images compressed with different quality factors are separated and used to train different CNN.\n2. Different classifiers were used for each embedding scheme (from binary to multi-class the gain is about 2% accuracy)\n\nNow, using the same trick for ALASKA2 would mean training 9 different classifiers, for 3 different quality factors and 3 different embedding scheme (or using a single multiclass classifier)\n\nSee here for the paper: [http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf](http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf) and especially beginning of section 2.3 and Table1 for your question.\nand there for the code: [https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska](https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska)",
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    {
      "id": "835404",
      "postDate": "05/06/2020 08:51:23",
      "content": "<p>Thanks a lot for the reference .</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks a lot for the reference .",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "869196",
      "postDate": "05/31/2020 20:07:29",
      "content": "<p>YES! I was trying to figure out WHYYYY a notebook was using 9 classes. I was so confused, where were they coming from? I used 4 (Cover + 3x Embedding Schemes), but now I finally understand the 9. Thank you so much for your post! 🙏</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "YES! I was trying to figure out WHYYYY a notebook was using 9 classes. I was so confused, where were they coming from? I used 4 (Cover + 3x Embedding Schemes), but now I finally understand the 9. Thank you so much for your post! 🙏",
      "votes": null
    }
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      "id": 835400,
      "author_name": "remicogranne",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/06/2020 08:45:03",
      "content": "<p>Good question. Indeed, if you look at the team that won the ALASKA#1 challenge they have not merged all images together (cover and stego).\nThey have used a two criteria splits:\n1. Images compressed with different quality factors are separated and used to train different CNN.\n2. Different classifiers were used for each embedding scheme (from binary to multi-class the gain is about 2% accuracy)</p>\n\n<p>Now, using the same trick for ALASKA2 would mean training 9 different classifiers, for 3 different quality factors and 3 different embedding scheme (or using a single multiclass classifier)</p>\n\n<p>See here for the paper: <a href=\"http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf\">http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf</a> and especially beginning of section 2.3 and Table1 for your question.\nand there for the code: <a href=\"https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska\">https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska</a></p>",
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        {
          "id": 835404,
          "author_name": "phoenix9032",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/06/2020 08:51:23",
          "content": "<p>Thanks a lot for the reference .</p>",
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    {
      "id": 869196,
      "author_name": "andradaolteanu",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/31/2020 20:07:29",
      "content": "<p>YES! I was trying to figure out WHYYYY a notebook was using 9 classes. I was so confused, where were they coming from? I used 4 (Cover + 3x Embedding Schemes), but now I finally understand the 9. Thank you so much for your post! 🙏</p>",
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    "835201": "Anyone tried this as a multiclass classification with 75000 sample for each class ? Did it do better than binary ?",
    "835400": "Good question. Indeed, if you look at the team that won the ALASKA#1 challenge they have not merged all images together (cover and stego).\nThey have used a two criteria splits:\n1. Images compressed with different quality factors are separated and used to train different CNN.\n2. Different classifiers were used for each embedding scheme (from binary to multi-class the gain is about 2% accuracy)\n\nNow, using the same trick for ALASKA2 would mean training 9 different classifiers, for 3 different quality factors and 3 different embedding scheme (or using a single multiclass classifier)\n\nSee here for the paper: [http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf](http://ws.binghamton.edu/fridrich/Research/ALASKA-preprint1.pdf) and especially beginning of section 2.3 and Table1 for your question.\nand there for the code: [https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska](https://github.com/YassineYousfi/alaska)",
    "835404": "Thanks a lot for the reference .",
    "869196": "YES! I was trying to figure out WHYYYY a notebook was using 9 classes. I was so confused, where were they coming from? I used 4 (Cover + 3x Embedding Schemes), but now I finally understand the 9. Thank you so much for your post! 🙏"
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