{
  "id": 74599,
  "title": "Get rid of punting",
  "url": "/competitions/NFL-Punt-Analytics-Competition/discussion/74599",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2018-12-13T20:52:43.143912200Z",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 10,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>100% reduction of injuries on punt plays = NFL wins.\nTeams no longer have to spend ~$1,500,000 on a punter = Owners win.\nIncreases in scoring &amp; 4th down excitement = Fans win.</p>\n\n<p>Problem Solved.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "438524",
      "postDate": "12/13/2018 20:52:43",
      "content": "<p>100% reduction of injuries on punt plays = NFL wins.\nTeams no longer have to spend ~$1,500,000 on a punter = Owners win.\nIncreases in scoring &amp; 4th down excitement = Fans win.</p>\n\n<p>Problem Solved.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "100% reduction of injuries on punt plays = NFL wins.\nTeams no longer have to spend ~$1,500,000 on a punter = Owners win.\nIncreases in scoring &amp; 4th down excitement = Fans win.\n\nProblem Solved.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "438546",
      "postDate": "12/13/2018 21:36:11",
      "content": "<p>Or if you wanted to still have punts, you could get rid of punt returns by not allowing a receiver to be back to catch the kick and downing the ball where it lands. Game balance would be largely preserved and injuries would't be expected to be more than on any other play. It might even be safer than a normal play, since there would be no ball carrier to be tackled once the kick is away.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Or if you wanted to still have punts, you could get rid of punt returns by not allowing a receiver to be back to catch the kick and downing the ball where it lands. Game balance would be largely preserved and injuries would't be expected to be more than on any other play. It might even be safer than a normal play, since there would be no ball carrier to be tackled once the kick is away.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "438582",
      "postDate": "12/13/2018 23:01:48",
      "content": "<p>Prove it :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Prove it :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "438586",
      "postDate": "12/13/2018 23:05:54",
      "content": "<p>If only... <a href=\"https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts/\">https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts/</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If only... https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts/",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "439264",
      "postDate": "12/15/2018 03:44:54",
      "content": "<p>What would be the incentive for the defense on the suggested play? I can only think of blocking the punt or protect against a fake punt.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "What would be the incentive for the defense on the suggested play? I can only think of blocking the punt or protect against a fake punt.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "439467",
      "postDate": "12/15/2018 14:33:22",
      "content": "<p>I suppose it would be similar to defending field goals from the perspective of the defense.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I suppose it would be similar to defending field goals from the perspective of the defense.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "439623",
      "postDate": "12/16/2018 00:28:18",
      "content": "<p>Or do like the CFL -  5 yards must be given or it results in a penalty (5 or 15 yards depending if the ball is played off the ground or is caught in the air). It allows the player to catch or play the ball without interference and you can get some exciting plays. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Or do like the CFL -  5 yards must be given or it results in a penalty (5 or 15 yards depending if the ball is played off the ground or is caught in the air). It allows the player to catch or play the ball without interference and you can get some exciting plays.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "440698",
      "postDate": "12/17/2018 22:42:48",
      "content": "<p>It gives up the excitement that can happen on the catch, runback, etc. without adding any excitement to replace that.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It gives up the excitement that can happen on the catch, runback, etc. without adding any excitement to replace that.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "441266",
      "postDate": "12/18/2018 13:45:49",
      "content": "<p>I wasn't really proposing this as the right solution to the problem, just as a more reasonable (yet still extreme) alternative to \"Get rid of punting.\"</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I wasn't really proposing this as the right solution to the problem, just as a more reasonable (yet still extreme) alternative to \"Get rid of punting.\"",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "442300",
      "postDate": "12/19/2018 18:56:04",
      "content": "<p>I know punts are not the most popular plays but they could be pretty cool!\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/gaborfodor/don-t-forget-to-watch-the-games\">https://www.kaggle.com/gaborfodor/don-t-forget-to-watch-the-games</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I know punts are not the most popular plays but they could be pretty cool!\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/gaborfodor/don-t-forget-to-watch-the-games",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "443541",
      "postDate": "12/21/2018 20:32:18",
      "content": "<p>I'm not giving my solution away for free but it involves bubble wrap and rear mirrors</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm not giving my solution away for free but it involves bubble wrap and rear mirrors",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 438546,
      "author_name": "hamelg",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/13/2018 21:36:11",
      "content": "<p>Or if you wanted to still have punts, you could get rid of punt returns by not allowing a receiver to be back to catch the kick and downing the ball where it lands. Game balance would be largely preserved and injuries would't be expected to be more than on any other play. It might even be safer than a normal play, since there would be no ball carrier to be tackled once the kick is away.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 439264,
          "author_name": "ibeavers",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/15/2018 03:44:54",
          "content": "<p>What would be the incentive for the defense on the suggested play? I can only think of blocking the punt or protect against a fake punt.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 439467,
          "author_name": "hamelg",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/15/2018 14:33:22",
          "content": "<p>I suppose it would be similar to defending field goals from the perspective of the defense.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 440698,
          "author_name": "r2j1d2",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/17/2018 22:42:48",
          "content": "<p>It gives up the excitement that can happen on the catch, runback, etc. without adding any excitement to replace that.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 441266,
          "author_name": "hamelg",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/18/2018 13:45:49",
          "content": "<p>I wasn't really proposing this as the right solution to the problem, just as a more reasonable (yet still extreme) alternative to \"Get rid of punting.\"</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 438582,
      "author_name": "crawford",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/13/2018 23:01:48",
      "content": "<p>Prove it :)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 438586,
      "author_name": "addisonhoward",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/13/2018 23:05:54",
      "content": "<p>If only... <a href=\"https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts/\">https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts/</a></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 439623,
      "author_name": "cbryant",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2018 00:28:18",
      "content": "<p>Or do like the CFL -  5 yards must be given or it results in a penalty (5 or 15 yards depending if the ball is played off the ground or is caught in the air). It allows the player to catch or play the ball without interference and you can get some exciting plays. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 442300,
      "author_name": "gaborfodor",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/19/2018 18:56:04",
      "content": "<p>I know punts are not the most popular plays but they could be pretty cool!\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/gaborfodor/don-t-forget-to-watch-the-games\">https://www.kaggle.com/gaborfodor/don-t-forget-to-watch-the-games</a></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 443541,
      "author_name": "rafacheang",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/21/2018 20:32:18",
      "content": "<p>I'm not giving my solution away for free but it involves bubble wrap and rear mirrors</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "438524": "100% reduction of injuries on punt plays = NFL wins.\nTeams no longer have to spend ~$1,500,000 on a punter = Owners win.\nIncreases in scoring &amp; 4th down excitement = Fans win.\n\nProblem Solved.",
    "438546": "Or if you wanted to still have punts, you could get rid of punt returns by not allowing a receiver to be back to catch the kick and downing the ball where it lands. Game balance would be largely preserved and injuries would't be expected to be more than on any other play. It might even be safer than a normal play, since there would be no ball carrier to be tackled once the kick is away.",
    "438582": "Prove it :)",
    "438586": "If only... https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-high-school-football-coach-who-never-punts/",
    "439264": "What would be the incentive for the defense on the suggested play? I can only think of blocking the punt or protect against a fake punt.",
    "439467": "I suppose it would be similar to defending field goals from the perspective of the defense.",
    "439623": "Or do like the CFL -  5 yards must be given or it results in a penalty (5 or 15 yards depending if the ball is played off the ground or is caught in the air). It allows the player to catch or play the ball without interference and you can get some exciting plays.",
    "440698": "It gives up the excitement that can happen on the catch, runback, etc. without adding any excitement to replace that.",
    "441266": "I wasn't really proposing this as the right solution to the problem, just as a more reasonable (yet still extreme) alternative to \"Get rid of punting.\"",
    "442300": "I know punts are not the most popular plays but they could be pretty cool!\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/gaborfodor/don-t-forget-to-watch-the-games",
    "443541": "I'm not giving my solution away for free but it involves bubble wrap and rear mirrors"
  },
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}